I’ve already tried engaging across multiple sub‑topics, and all that achieved was people accusing me of ‘conflation’ simply because several conversations were happening at once. It’s perfectly normal to mix up users or threads when ten people are talking at the same time, but that doesn’t mean I was conflating arguments.
That’s exactly why I’m now sticking to one point only — no side‑tracks, no topic‑hopping, no conflation. Just the core issue.
And on that core issue, the overwhelming medical and psychiatric consensus does not support the claims your community is making. You’re the ones making the counter‑consensus claims, so the burden of proof sits with you. And you haven’t met it.
If anything you’ve (the community) argued would actually hold up to scrutiny, at least one reputable medical, psychiatric, or clinical body somewhere in the Western world would endorse it. None do. Not one. The only explanation you ever offer for that is the conspiracy theory that all these institutions are ‘captured’. That’s not evidence — it’s a way to avoid the fact that your claims have zero institutional backing.
When I asked for evidence of this supposed ‘capture’, the most common reply I got was, ‘everyone on Mumsnet knows it’. That doesn’t demonstrate institutional corruption — it demonstrates exactly the echo‑chamber problem I’ve been pointing out
And all I asked was for one person to simply acknowledge, out loud, that what I’m saying is true: none of the major medical, psychiatric, or clinical bodies endorse the claims you’re making. Not one.
But nobody here will admit that, because you all understand how bad it looks for your side of the argument when the entire professional landscape contradicts you. And it shows your dishonesty in the conversation.
And yes, by your own community’s analogy, that makes your side the flat‑earthers here.