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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
ProfessorRedshoeblueshoe · 21/11/2025 21:21
Happy New Year Smiling GIF

Brilliant news - very well deserved

INeedAPensieve · 21/11/2025 21:26

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TwoLoonsAndASprout · 21/11/2025 21:35

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Just to say, pre-edited versions of posts can still be seen by clicking on the “edited” button, so if you really want rid of something, I’d ask for it to be deleted.

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 13:21

I wonder if Rebecca Dom Kennedy wrote this pish on company time. I.e., paid for by the taxpayer. She is clearly enraged at the award:

Rebecca Don Kennedy is Chief Executive Officer of the Equality Network

archive.is/2025.11.24-144145/www.heraldscotland.com/politics/holyrood/25645284.across-public-life-animosity-towards-trans-people-becoming-overt/

'...The third nominee was For Women Scotland for their campaigning around changing the definition of women to a biological one. This campaign saw them take Scottish Ministers to court twice, and then to the UK Supreme Court to ensure that ‘women’ as defined in the Equality Act was a biological definition exclusive of trans women.

This campaign’s aim, ultimately, is to ensure that cis women (one whose gender identity aligns with her birth sex) and trans women will be treated differently for all purposes and across all services. Some applauded the supposed prevailing of ‘common sense’.

Others, like me and many more, saw this as fundamentally counter to decades of equalities and human rights progress. We see that it will result in harmful exclusionary practice and a denial of access to services for trans and cis women. For Women Scotland won the award.

As an organisation we too campaign to change policy and legislation and know that campaigning is tough. Objectively, yes, FWS’s campaign was successful in that they succeeded in getting what they wanted at the Supreme Court. But ‘successful’ is clearly subjective here. What has this campaign achieved to better the lives of people in Scotland?

The ruling of the Supreme Court in April, and the resulting proposed Code of Practice (CoP), have been heavily criticised. Several bodies have documented alarm over developments in the UK, including the UN and the Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights. The impact on the ground for real people has been catastrophic. Trans Actual have released reports detailing how this has negatively impacted trans and cis people.

So far, without having seen a final Code of Practice approved by the <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/mmeGC/www.heraldscotland.com/topics/uk-government/?ref=au" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">UK Government, there is no clarity, no conversations around inclusion, only blanket exclusion. The leaked version of the CoP released by The Times suggests that people may be refused access to services and spaces based only on what they look like. That has been dubbed a ‘Misogynist’s Charter’. It would see a Scotland where people, mostly women, will be excluded from facilities and services based on how they look and likely exposed to aggressive vigilante toilet policing. Now women must look and behave a certain way and be reduced to their vulvas and reproductive ability whilst at it.

In the meantime, trans people are further retreating from public life, and gender non-conforming cis women are forced to change their appearance to avoid harassment. To my mind, these effects on cis women undermine FWS’s claim to be campaigning to protect women. Across public life, animosity towards trans people is becoming more overt and more prominent, sacrificing the well-being of all women whilst pushing to restrict trans people.

The women FWS claim to protect will in fact be harmed by this retrogression. Trans people are increasingly vulnerable right now and yet they, and we, persist alongside others in pushing forward to better the lives of all LGBTI+ and marginalised people, including women in Scotland. In so doing we collectively aim for a Scotland where people are lifted, where rights are realised, and where all are treated with dignity, respect and empathy, as all of us should be.

The ‘winning’ campaign had none of these principles as their foundation.'

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ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 13:22

I wonder if we should be known as 'cis women (one whose gender identity aligns with her birth sex)' going forward? For clarity?

CWOWGIAWHBS, perhaps?

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/11/2025 13:29

It boggle's my mind that someone who's the CEO of an Equalities Network thinks clarification of who is protected by one of the protected characteristic in the Equality's Act is a bad thing.

Somebody sack this muppet, please.

SwirlyGates · 25/11/2025 13:31

We see that it will result in harmful exclusionary practice and a denial of access to services for trans and cis women.

We see that it will result in harmful exclusionary practice and a denial of access to women's services for male trans people, in order to protect women's rights.

Fixed it for her

lechiffre55 · 25/11/2025 13:51

@TheywontletmehavethenameIwant
taxpayer funded crank is right on the money
half a million - disgraceful

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 14:34

'reduced to their vulvas and reproductive ability'

How dare she talk this way about proud birthing people! The People Formerly Known as Women are not buying it, love.

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Tiddler1976 · 25/11/2025 14:56

Why is Scottish taxpayers' money funding this organisation? I really hope that publicity like this just shines a light on the drivel that the Scottish Government have been financing over the years. She can keep talking and keep newspaper space as all she's doing is providing evidence as to why her organisation doesn't provide any value for money.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 25/11/2025 15:35

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 14:34

'reduced to their vulvas and reproductive ability'

How dare she talk this way about proud birthing people! The People Formerly Known as Women are not buying it, love.

I can't stand this disingenuous 'reduced to genitals' bs.

I'm trying to think up a ludicrous enough analogy...like saying 'all vertebrates are being reduced to their spines'?

'All fish are being reduced to their ability to breathe under water'?

A necessary condition of being a member of a group isn't the only notable thing about them.

Why. Can't. People. Grasp. This.?

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 15:36

Tiddler1976 · 25/11/2025 14:56

Why is Scottish taxpayers' money funding this organisation? I really hope that publicity like this just shines a light on the drivel that the Scottish Government have been financing over the years. She can keep talking and keep newspaper space as all she's doing is providing evidence as to why her organisation doesn't provide any value for money.

I guess the article above explains it - the government funds quangos to pretend to add 'expert' opinion - in fact they are acting as govt attackers when required.

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ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 15:38

Our tax paid for the govt to go to court to fight FWS, our donations paid for FWS to go to court ... all of it is paying for the lovely big salaries of all those at Holyrood diligently working against our best interests.

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ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 15:38

But hey, at least we have the ferries!

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/11/2025 15:44

ArabellaSaurus · 25/11/2025 15:38

But hey, at least we have the ferries!

And your glass is recycled. 😂

Waitwhat23 · 25/11/2025 17:21

The Equalities Network (of which Scottish Trans is a part) actively campaigned for the single exemptions and occupational requirements to be removed from the EQA2010 and influenced policy to allow violent male sex offenders in the female prison estate. They campaigned for self ID during the GRR bill debates.

https://murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2022/11/17/women-sex-and-the-equality-network-lifting-the-fig-leaf/

Of course EN/ST is furious. They've been defeated. They've had the ear (and funding) of the captured Scottish Government for years and now their grift is over.

'You raging, aye?'

Women, sex and the Equality Network: lifting the fig leaf - Murray Blackburn Mackenzie

Discussion on the relationship between the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill and the Equality Act has largely focused on the law as it is. This blog looks instead at what one of Scotland’s leading trans advocacy organisations – which has presse...

https://murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2022/11/17/women-sex-and-the-equality-network-lifting-the-fig-leaf/

littlbrowndog · 25/11/2025 18:30

yay

littlbrowndog · 25/11/2025 18:33

Tax payers money pay for their wages at equalities network. Most of their money from us pays that bunch

can’t think who they actually support as it’s not women

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