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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Very mvoing tweet about how women have been colonised by men

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PoetryEmotion · 31/10/2025 08:39

I came across this tweet by Diana Alastair today, and thought it was worth posting. It's absolutely heartbreaking, and anger-making:

OK, trans community – it’s truth time. One of the biggest differences between the way women are treated and the way that y’all are treated is that y’all are allowed to have safe spaces. You’re allowed to have subreddits that are trans-only, places and events that are just for you. We’re not.

When I tried to start a subreddit for female humans, for example (including the ones who identify as men) so that we had a place to talk about female things, it lasted less than a week, and the admins performed a delicate little dance before banning us for “hate.” They temp-banned me and all my mods, then banned the whole community because we weren’t able to take down the anti-trans posts that were clearly against our rules - and that didn’t appear until after we were tempbanned. Hmm.

Women get nothing: not subreddits, not dating apps, not even an app for women in general. No bathrooms, no changing rooms, no sports of our own; hell, we can’t even get away from y’all in prison! Any female-only event y’all get to hearing about is targeted by protesters, often violent ones, invariably carrying signs threatening harm or encouraging suicide — lovely behavior from people who constantly quote trans suicide statistics as if it’s the biggest crisis on the planet, btw.

Any women’s shelter or rape crisis center that is female-only is also targeted: the sole remaining women’s rape crisis center in all of Canada has been repeatedly vandalized with threatening graffiti, and even had a dead rat nailed to its door. This, in a city with 6 other rape counseling centers available, all of them trans-friendly. It’s not about being denied access to services — it’s sick, twisted, furious hatred at even the idea of women having anything of our own.

You have taken it all: our spaces, our sports, and our safety. You’ve taken our privacy, our dignity, our right to single-sex incarceration, and our right to single-sex intimate care. You’ve taken our identities, and the words we use to name ourselves.

You want us to agree that being female means nothing, is nothing, deserves nothing - no recognition, no separate existence — not even a name. We are “uterus-havers,” “menstruators,” “bleeders,” and “people with cervixes.” “Women” belongs to you now, and you’re even coming for “female.”

You’re taking everything we are, piece by piece — and what do we get in return, for the theft of the names you took from us? “Cis” — a prefix that sidelines us in our own demographic, and which privately, the trans community uses as a slur. What good little colonizers you’ve turned out to be.

https://x.com/sappholives83/status/1983648197403721787

Diana Alastair💚🤍💜 ⚢ ❌❌ (@sappholives83) on X

OK, trans community – it’s truth time. One of the biggest differences between the way women are treated and the way that y’all are treated is that y’all are allowed to have safe spaces. You’re allowed to have subreddits that are trans-only, places and...

https://x.com/sappholives83/status/1983648197403721787

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 01/11/2025 21:02

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Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 07:14

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It takes more than that to take away my dignity!

Dont get me wrong… I think the entire trans nonsense is just that..,, awful nonsense and I’d like the government to say “fuck that, you’re a man, the day you don’t have a penis is the day you can do xyz”

my point is…. This? Doesn’t reduce my dignity or diminish me in any shape or form.

spannasaurus · 02/11/2025 08:08

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 07:14

It takes more than that to take away my dignity!

Dont get me wrong… I think the entire trans nonsense is just that..,, awful nonsense and I’d like the government to say “fuck that, you’re a man, the day you don’t have a penis is the day you can do xyz”

my point is…. This? Doesn’t reduce my dignity or diminish me in any shape or form.

If you were sent to prison and forced to share showers or a cell with a male rapist do you think that would be enough to take away your dignity?

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 08:26

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 07:14

It takes more than that to take away my dignity!

Dont get me wrong… I think the entire trans nonsense is just that..,, awful nonsense and I’d like the government to say “fuck that, you’re a man, the day you don’t have a penis is the day you can do xyz”

my point is…. This? Doesn’t reduce my dignity or diminish me in any shape or form.

13 years ago ish [time really does fly] one of my male colleagues, in his 50s at the time, turned up at work to meet with me, on his day off.

We worked at a place that had an education dept which had children mainly primary visiting - usually 2-3 coach loads almost every day. As he walked towards me, dressed as little bo peep, with his hair in ribbons, white ankle socks on and frilly knickers that were more than visible under his pink checked frilly skirt, my dignity was through the floor. I do not and did not consent to cosplay his fetish and neither did any other staff or volunteers in that day.

Luckily, I could see the coach parking area as he walked in my direction, and none were in that day. I breathed a sigh of relief. And luckily he wasn't really interested in the meeting, spoke briefly to me and went into the building. I made my excuses that I would do the work from home that day and drove home.

Until you experience the absolute in your face brazen fucking cheek of these guys, who you know will face zero consequences for their behaviour, you have no idea what it will do to your dignity.

I am still, 13 ish years later, within seconds of bursting into tears at the frustration of it all, and I'm a 58 year old who has taken early retirement because I couldn't cope with the fucking nonsense any more.

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 08:42

spannasaurus · 02/11/2025 08:08

If you were sent to prison and forced to share showers or a cell with a male rapist do you think that would be enough to take away your dignity?

No

it would concern me, it would anger me, I would feel very anxious

but no. It would not take away my dignity

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 08:43

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 08:26

13 years ago ish [time really does fly] one of my male colleagues, in his 50s at the time, turned up at work to meet with me, on his day off.

We worked at a place that had an education dept which had children mainly primary visiting - usually 2-3 coach loads almost every day. As he walked towards me, dressed as little bo peep, with his hair in ribbons, white ankle socks on and frilly knickers that were more than visible under his pink checked frilly skirt, my dignity was through the floor. I do not and did not consent to cosplay his fetish and neither did any other staff or volunteers in that day.

Luckily, I could see the coach parking area as he walked in my direction, and none were in that day. I breathed a sigh of relief. And luckily he wasn't really interested in the meeting, spoke briefly to me and went into the building. I made my excuses that I would do the work from home that day and drove home.

Until you experience the absolute in your face brazen fucking cheek of these guys, who you know will face zero consequences for their behaviour, you have no idea what it will do to your dignity.

I am still, 13 ish years later, within seconds of bursting into tears at the frustration of it all, and I'm a 58 year old who has taken early retirement because I couldn't cope with the fucking nonsense any more.

This would have been mortifying! I would have felt embarrassed and distanced myself!

but no… it would not have taken away my dignity

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 08:44

Did you have no idea about your colleague??!

nutmeg7 · 02/11/2025 08:48

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 08:43

This would have been mortifying! I would have felt embarrassed and distanced myself!

but no… it would not have taken away my dignity

That’s probably because you are better than everyone else

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 08:50

nutmeg7 · 02/11/2025 08:48

That’s probably because you are better than everyone else

Oh don’t be silly and childish

BlueEyedBogWitch · 02/11/2025 08:54

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 08:26

13 years ago ish [time really does fly] one of my male colleagues, in his 50s at the time, turned up at work to meet with me, on his day off.

We worked at a place that had an education dept which had children mainly primary visiting - usually 2-3 coach loads almost every day. As he walked towards me, dressed as little bo peep, with his hair in ribbons, white ankle socks on and frilly knickers that were more than visible under his pink checked frilly skirt, my dignity was through the floor. I do not and did not consent to cosplay his fetish and neither did any other staff or volunteers in that day.

Luckily, I could see the coach parking area as he walked in my direction, and none were in that day. I breathed a sigh of relief. And luckily he wasn't really interested in the meeting, spoke briefly to me and went into the building. I made my excuses that I would do the work from home that day and drove home.

Until you experience the absolute in your face brazen fucking cheek of these guys, who you know will face zero consequences for their behaviour, you have no idea what it will do to your dignity.

I am still, 13 ish years later, within seconds of bursting into tears at the frustration of it all, and I'm a 58 year old who has taken early retirement because I couldn't cope with the fucking nonsense any more.

Did you not say, “What the fuck do you think you look like, Colin?”

I don’t think I would have been able to stop myself.

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 08:58

BlueEyedBogWitch · 02/11/2025 08:54

Did you not say, “What the fuck do you think you look like, Colin?”

I don’t think I would have been able to stop myself.

Exactly

and surely the poster knew this about her colleague? I wouldn’t be meeting up with him in any circumstances!

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 09:27

r. I do not and did not consent to cosplay his fetish and neither did any other staff or volunteers in that day.

but you did consent to meet him. Knowing he was trans.

and you did consent to meet him at your workplace knowing this

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 09:29

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 09:27

r. I do not and did not consent to cosplay his fetish and neither did any other staff or volunteers in that day.

but you did consent to meet him. Knowing he was trans.

and you did consent to meet him at your workplace knowing this

I consented to have a meeting with a colleague. Not be a party to his cos play fetish. In work hours. In a professional setting.

If you don't see the difference maybe you had no dignity to start with?

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 09:31

BlueEyedBogWitch · 02/11/2025 08:54

Did you not say, “What the fuck do you think you look like, Colin?”

I don’t think I would have been able to stop myself.

To he honest I didnt know what to say. Its the flight fight freeze fawn response and I froze. And got the fuck out of there.

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 09:32

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 08:58

Exactly

and surely the poster knew this about her colleague? I wouldn’t be meeting up with him in any circumstances!

You cant refuse to meet up with colleagues just in case one turns up dressed is his fetish gear!

MumoftwoNC · 02/11/2025 09:33

I don't like the tone of the tweet. It's too pleading. All this "y'all are taking our things, please let us have our things back". Who does she think she'll get through to? Men who invade aren't going to stop doing so from pleading

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 09:41

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 09:32

You cant refuse to meet up with colleagues just in case one turns up dressed is his fetish gear!

Huh?

he had the day off and was meeting the poster socially

PriOn1 · 02/11/2025 09:41

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 09:31

To he honest I didnt know what to say. Its the flight fight freeze fawn response and I froze. And got the fuck out of there.

I would have frozen too. While I would prefer to come up with a rational response, such as “What on earth so you think you look like?” or something even pithier, experience tells me that my mind shies away from almost any kind of unreasonable challenge/perceived conflict when I’m not expecting it.

I wonder what he was thinking. Presumably he enjoyed shocking you. Men like him make my flesh crawl and I am so sick of society, governments and the police putting them first over women every single time.

FictionalCharacter · 02/11/2025 09:44

moggly · 31/10/2025 20:03

The sentiment is spot on but it would have been much better if she hadn't written it with an AI chatbot. Sorry but that ruins it.

It doesn't read at all like AI to me. It's her own style of writing (I've followed her for a long time).

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 09:45

PriOn1 · 02/11/2025 09:41

I would have frozen too. While I would prefer to come up with a rational response, such as “What on earth so you think you look like?” or something even pithier, experience tells me that my mind shies away from almost any kind of unreasonable challenge/perceived conflict when I’m not expecting it.

I wonder what he was thinking. Presumably he enjoyed shocking you. Men like him make my flesh crawl and I am so sick of society, governments and the police putting them first over women every single time.

This was a close friend and colleague

I’m baffled that the poster seems to have been so surprised by the turn of events

MarieDeGournay · 02/11/2025 09:45

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 08:42

No

it would concern me, it would anger me, I would feel very anxious

but no. It would not take away my dignity

I think we've run into a difference of opinion about what we mean by 'dignity'.
I take it as meaning a sense of self-worth and self-respect, and I agree that nobody can take that away from me.

But people can behave towards me in a way that does not recognise my dignity.
A man walking in to a women-only space where I was in a vulnerable state, by reason of being partially undressed, etc. and hanging around and watching instead of saying 'Oh I'm very sorry!' and backing out rapidly, is an affront to my dignity.

It doesn't take my dignity away, but it disrespects it and that's what makes it unacceptable.

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 09:49

MarieDeGournay · 02/11/2025 09:45

I think we've run into a difference of opinion about what we mean by 'dignity'.
I take it as meaning a sense of self-worth and self-respect, and I agree that nobody can take that away from me.

But people can behave towards me in a way that does not recognise my dignity.
A man walking in to a women-only space where I was in a vulnerable state, by reason of being partially undressed, etc. and hanging around and watching instead of saying 'Oh I'm very sorry!' and backing out rapidly, is an affront to my dignity.

It doesn't take my dignity away, but it disrespects it and that's what makes it unacceptable.

In my view, that is disrespectful

nothing to do with taking away my dignity ( self worth etc)

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 09:58

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 09:41

Huh?

he had the day off and was meeting the poster socially

No, he arranged a busines meeting without telling me it was his day off and turned up dressed as Little Bo Peep.

Shedmistress · 02/11/2025 10:01

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 09:45

This was a close friend and colleague

I’m baffled that the poster seems to have been so surprised by the turn of events

Who said he was a 'close friend'?

Do male colleagues in their 50s turn up to work meetings dressed in their fetish gear regularly at your workplace?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 02/11/2025 10:39

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