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1992 Workplace Regs question

51 replies

Seainasive · 03/10/2025 17:06

Asking as my office is in a building with a different tenant on each floor, with toilets off the stairwell not in our office. Toilets are the usual cubicles with shared wash basins, and are unisex. Nobody likes this but the building manager won’t change them.

they say it’s fine as each cubicle can be locked.

where does it actually say that a unisex toilet must be self contained? The words of the relevant clause in the regs are not that specific.

I should maybe put this in Legal but thought I might have more luck here!

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thirdfiddle · 03/10/2025 17:17

This?
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/3004/regulation/20

"separate rooms containing conveniences are provided for men and women except where and so far as each convenience is in a separate room the door of which is capable of being secured from inside"

It is obvious that cubicles aren't a feasible reading of separate rooms, otherwise all it's banning is open plan loos which was never a thing in the first place.

The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/3004/regulation/20

RoastOrMash · 03/10/2025 17:28

I am in similar situation large 11 storey building, 1-4 tenant companies on each floor, shared toilets on each floor signed either male or female so ostensibly single sex but the landlord’s policy is self id into whichever you prefer. They are cubicles with shared sink area so not self contained rooms, so not lawful according to workplace regs.

IANAL but I think all employees have discrimination case against their employer and the tenant employers have a case against landlord.
i plan to use the arguments from this weeks Maria Kelly case vs Leonardo to ask my employer to advocate to the landlord to change policy to be lawful.
Treading carefully tho cos of job security…

Seainasive · 03/10/2025 17:28

Thanks I agree that a cubicle is not a room. I just wish it was clearer about what ‘convenience’s’ actually means. Does it include wash basins?

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spannasaurus · 03/10/2025 17:31

I think there's a legal case that specifically states that the toilet and basin have to be in a cubicle for it to be considered a unisex toilet but unfortunately I can't remember which case.

Hopefully another poster might be able to link to it

Seainasive · 03/10/2025 17:42

Part T of the 2010 building regs. I think i may have found it.

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AnSolas · 03/10/2025 18:28

It is in the washing hands after using the toilet bit😉

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/3004/regulation/21

Washing facilities
21.—(1) Suitable and sufficient washing facilities, including showers if required by the nature of the work or for health reasons, shall be provided at readily accessible places.

(2) Without prejudice to the generality of paragraph (1), washing facilities shall not be suitable unless—
(a)they are provided in the immediate vicinity of every sanitary convenience, whether or not provided elsewhere as well;
(b)they are provided in the vicinity of any changing rooms required by these Regulations, whether or not provided elsewhere as well;
(c)they include a supply of clean hot and cold, or warm, water (which shall be running water so far as is practicable);
(d)they include soap or other suitable means of cleaning;
(e)they include towels or other suitable means of drying;
(f)the rooms containing them are sufficiently ventilated and lit;
(g)they and the rooms containing them are kept in a clean and orderly condition; and
(h)separate facilities are provided for men and women, except where and so far as they are provided in a room the door of which is capable of being secured from inside and the facilities in each such room are intended to be used by only one person at a time.
(3) Paragraph (2)(h) shall not apply to facilities which are provided for washing hands, forearms and face only.

[(Edited to remove odd paste format )]

The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/3004/regulation/21

Seainasive · 03/10/2025 18:33

Hmm not sure that helps- washbasins near toilets are usually for hand washing only.

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AnSolas · 03/10/2025 18:45

RoastOrMash · 03/10/2025 17:28

I am in similar situation large 11 storey building, 1-4 tenant companies on each floor, shared toilets on each floor signed either male or female so ostensibly single sex but the landlord’s policy is self id into whichever you prefer. They are cubicles with shared sink area so not self contained rooms, so not lawful according to workplace regs.

IANAL but I think all employees have discrimination case against their employer and the tenant employers have a case against landlord.
i plan to use the arguments from this weeks Maria Kelly case vs Leonardo to ask my employer to advocate to the landlord to change policy to be lawful.
Treading carefully tho cos of job security…

Each employer has a problem as they (may) have rented a space which is not in compliance with their legal obligations.

The employer needs to look at their lease contract with the landlord it will should have a section which covers access and shared spaces and toilets and that it passes building control and H&S regs like fire controls etc.

I would expect that the contract limits the LLs obligation to mantain services to the floor(s) being rented (such that the LL could lock out the lifts and fire door access on an unrented floor or where a business wanted a "secure" method of entry on "their" floor).

So the employer is objecting to breach of contract.

Work9to5 · 03/10/2025 18:53

The building I work in has different tenants on different floors and loos available outside the office space. Each ladies has a single cubicle with a sink and all the other cubicle are just loos. I don't know what happens in the gents but it's always the "gents" that seem to use the disabled loos.

I'm more irritated about the mess that the "gents" leave behind them but I'm in the office so little for anything else to be more of an irritant.

RoastOrMash · 03/10/2025 18:55

AnSolas · 03/10/2025 18:45

Each employer has a problem as they (may) have rented a space which is not in compliance with their legal obligations.

The employer needs to look at their lease contract with the landlord it will should have a section which covers access and shared spaces and toilets and that it passes building control and H&S regs like fire controls etc.

I would expect that the contract limits the LLs obligation to mantain services to the floor(s) being rented (such that the LL could lock out the lifts and fire door access on an unrented floor or where a business wanted a "secure" method of entry on "their" floor).

So the employer is objecting to breach of contract.

Thank you that is really helpful 👍🙂

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 03/10/2025 18:56

I have no idea, but @Keeptoiletssafe might (hope I've tagged the right person!).

MyAmpleSheep · 03/10/2025 19:00

I am going to go against the tide and say that since "washing facilities" (including hand washing facilities) are covered in section 21, the "sanitary convenience" that must be in an individual lockable room when provided for more than one sex refers to the toilet bowl only.

21(2)(a) requires washing facilities to be provided "in the vicinity" of every sanitary convenience, which is clearly not the same as "in the same room as".

Overall I would say the shared washbasins and individual full-height door unisex rooms/cubicles comply with the 1992 regulations.

It doesn't comply with the 2024 edition of part T of the 2010 building regulations but they only came into force in 2024 and apply to new and renovated buildings after that date. Buildings are not required to comply retrospectively.

AnSolas · 03/10/2025 19:04

Seainasive · 03/10/2025 18:33

Hmm not sure that helps- washbasins near toilets are usually for hand washing only.

Section 20 is clear

SSS or individual provision.

And add a wash basin so the provision for women needs to account for women having hygiene needs which include the need to wash other body parts.

The employer has choices

2 Block of toilets only so pull out the sinks from each block

Relocate sinks to the immediate vicinity outside the block

Or leave the sinks in

Or provide individual rooms with or without sinks

Room is not a wooden partition.
Its a space which has a fire rating wall and door and fire exit rules and a whole lot more

MyAmpleSheep · 03/10/2025 19:12

AnSolas · 03/10/2025 19:04

Section 20 is clear

SSS or individual provision.

And add a wash basin so the provision for women needs to account for women having hygiene needs which include the need to wash other body parts.

The employer has choices

2 Block of toilets only so pull out the sinks from each block

Relocate sinks to the immediate vicinity outside the block

Or leave the sinks in

Or provide individual rooms with or without sinks

Room is not a wooden partition.
Its a space which has a fire rating wall and door and fire exit rules and a whole lot more

And add a wash basin so the provision for women needs to account for women having hygiene needs which include the need to wash other body parts.

I do not think that is well established (or even establishable) since washbasins provided for hand-washing are clearly prima-facie unsuitable for washing any body part other than hands or face at any time or in any company, and nobody has ever argued that (hand-only) basins are therefore unsuitable for women in single-sex toilets. If hand-washing only facilities are suitable in single-sex toilets they must be suitable in shared washing facilities too.

spannasaurus · 03/10/2025 19:30

Sanitary conveniences means more than the toilet. It's the toilet , handbasin and sanitary bins etc. The sanitary conveniences all have to be being in the same individual cubicle. The individual cubicle is a room for these regulations.

AnSolas · 03/10/2025 19:35

MyAmpleSheep · 03/10/2025 19:00

I am going to go against the tide and say that since "washing facilities" (including hand washing facilities) are covered in section 21, the "sanitary convenience" that must be in an individual lockable room when provided for more than one sex refers to the toilet bowl only.

21(2)(a) requires washing facilities to be provided "in the vicinity" of every sanitary convenience, which is clearly not the same as "in the same room as".

Overall I would say the shared washbasins and individual full-height door unisex rooms/cubicles comply with the 1992 regulations.

It doesn't comply with the 2024 edition of part T of the 2010 building regulations but they only came into force in 2024 and apply to new and renovated buildings after that date. Buildings are not required to comply retrospectively.

Edited

Words matter a room will have a legal meaning and build code.

And "in the vicinity" is different to immediate vicinity eg a changing room has no immediate

(a)they are provided in the immediate vicinity.
(b)they are provided in the vicinity ...

Sanitary conveniences
20.—(1) Suitable and sufficient sanitary conveniences shall be provided at readily accessible places (2) sanitary conveniences shall not be suitable unless—
(c)separate rooms containing conveniences are provided for men and women
• except where and so far as
° each convenience is in a separate room
° the door of which is capable of being secured from inside.

21.—(1) Suitable and sufficient washing facilities, shall be provided at readily accessible places (2) washing facilities shall not be suitable unless—
2(a)they are provided in the
• immediate vicinity of every sanitary convenience,* *
whether or not provided elsewhere as well

AnSolas · 03/10/2025 20:22

MyAmpleSheep · 03/10/2025 19:12

And add a wash basin so the provision for women needs to account for women having hygiene needs which include the need to wash other body parts.

I do not think that is well established (or even establishable) since washbasins provided for hand-washing are clearly prima-facie unsuitable for washing any body part other than hands or face at any time or in any company, and nobody has ever argued that (hand-only) basins are therefore unsuitable for women in single-sex toilets. If hand-washing only facilities are suitable in single-sex toilets they must be suitable in shared washing facilities too.

Edited

You are reading that section wrong (I think)

(3) facilities which are provided for washing hands, forearms and face only [ do not need sparate facilities for for men and women ]

(1) Suitable and sufficient washing facilities, including showers if required by the nature of the work or for health reasons, shall be provided at readily accessible places.

So eg a canteen area need not have toilets but can provide a space to clean up before or after eating or a hospital (pre gels) could provide a wash area for infection control in an open hallway or at the door of a ward

The reg is "washing facilities" which we assume should be read as wash basin or hand wash basin but the reg is about H&S and hygiene when dealing with the removal of body fluids.

There is no expectation that female staff will be climbing into the basin to wash although most installs are engineered to carry a load its about "propriety" should women do need to wash other body parts.

Washing in a basin is is still an alternative to showers and should an employee spill something on themselves they are going to use the sink to clean themselves and their clothing.

MyAmpleSheep · 04/10/2025 00:16

spannasaurus · 03/10/2025 19:30

Sanitary conveniences means more than the toilet. It's the toilet , handbasin and sanitary bins etc. The sanitary conveniences all have to be being in the same individual cubicle. The individual cubicle is a room for these regulations.

I'm confident that the meaning sanitary conveniences doesn't include a wash basin or sanitary bin. as there is a section on washing facilities (21) distinct from sanitary conveniences (20) and those washing facilities in 21 need to be provided in the "immediate vicinity of every sanitary convenience". If the meaning of sanitary convenience already included a wash basin then there would be no need for a requirement for an additional washing facility in the immediate vicinity.

I don't believe it's anywhere in law established that women have a general requirement at work to wash other than their hands and if it were, there are many if not all lavatory installations that would be unsuitable and therefore unlawful. I've never heard anyone argue that before. It would be a novel point of law. For example, in all the discussions in the Leonardo case, and the SP case, nobody has ever raised that the washing facilities needed to be re-engineered if a bathroom was changed from male to female or otherwise. Urinals (obviously) are a frequent consideration, but not mention of bigger or better wash basins for women over men.

Additionally, if the 1992 workplace regulations already required single-sex or separate individual handwashing facilities along side single sex or individual sanitary conveniences (toilets) then the 2024 update to document T in the building regs would hardly be anything new, and there would be little need to hilight this new provision in the document, as indeed it is highlighted.

I'm sorry. It would be nice if the 1992 regs said that individual floor-to-ceiling cubicles need to have a wash basin included to comply. But ... they don't.

AnSolas · 04/10/2025 05:49

@MyAmpleSheep

How in law is a cubicle a room?

Which bit of the act says handwashing?

Where is you assumption that a woman needs a basin to wash rather than just access to running hot and cold water?

The question is can the employer provide mixed sex washing facilities where 2 or more washing facilities are provided in the same room.

I agree with the sanitary bin not being mentioned in the Act as the idea that a woman would need to to dispose of blood as a body fluid appears to sail over heads of the writers and is only likely to be a plumbing Regulation/Act issue where flushing pads etc blocks the public pipe network.

then the 2024 update to document T in the building regs would hardly be anything new, and there would be little need to hilight this new provision in the document, as indeed it is highlighted.

For this ^ where and when was a new Act of SI passed which changed the law around provision which prompted the highlight of the new provision?

@RoastOrMash have a read of this as it looks like it or the main act 1963 act covers shared business spaces and toilet provision.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1964/965/made

The Washing Facilities Regulations 1964

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1964/965/made

MyAmpleSheep · 04/10/2025 11:27

I agree a cubicle is not a room and a unisex facility with cubicles doesn’t meet the 1992 regulations.

A mixed sex facility of several toilets each in its own room with a floor to ceiling lockable door, does.

Mixed sex facilities for washing hands and faces are legal, and where provided in the immediate vicinity of those unisex rooms meet the washing facilities requirement. A basin isn’t strictly necessary - as you point out, hot and cold taps over an open drain pan would probably be adequate too.

I’m with you that the regulations don’t completely or adequately describe women’s real requirements. My point is a small one - merely that under the 1992 regulations when you have small individual unisex rooms each containing a toilet bowl, there doesn’t lawfully need to be a hand basin or other way to wash your hands in it. Hand basins in an adjacent communal mixed sex area suffice. That small point has changed in the 2024 documents referenced.

Seainasive · 04/10/2025 11:46

@MyAmpleSheep thank you that is really useful. And makes me feel a little less stupid for not finding in the regs what people have been saying the law is.

in our building there is an easy fix: rebadge the toilets male & female, which would mean that some would have to use the loos on a different floor.

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MarieDeGournay · 04/10/2025 11:57

The wider questions are: if it is an old building, it probably had existing single sex toilets, which complied with the building regs at the time, and now comply with the most current ones as well.
So why change them?

If it is a new building, it should have single sex toilets to comply with current building regs., unless there isn't enough space.
'Universal' mixed sex toilets may be provided additionally, but they must have handwashing facilities inside the cubicle - shared mixed handwashing isn't compliant.
So why aren't there single sex toilets in all new buildings?

We have seen examples of toilet configurations which work perfectly well for the vast majority of the population changed, and not for the better, in order to placate a tiny percentage of the population who will not use the toilet designated for their sex.
We have seen examples of these changes in toilet provision involving the removal of women's spaces and their replacement with mixed sex toilets.

There is a current tribunal where we learnt that the 'new and improved' toilet arrangement has no women's toilets, even to the extent of re-badging the one remaining one in the building - which was a bit off the beaten track so it had survived as a women's toilet - as mixed sex.

I don't think these re-arrangements in favour of 'inclusivity' are being done in good faith. I sense a degree of punishment of women for daring to assert their rights - their legal rights - to their own spaces. There even seems to be an element of sheer spitefulness.

AnSolas · 04/10/2025 12:29

Ignoring the toilet

And looking at the washing facilities solo on what basis are you saying that an employer can be sure that an employee will never be is a position to need to wash a body part other than face hands and forearms on the property?

I have been in bog standard "safe" office with people spilling tea and coffee on themselves ans/or others or printer toner incidents where they discovered shaking the toner a la Tom Cruise in Cocktail is not a bright idea etc

So whats the suitable and sufficient washing facilities in these instance ?

Mixed sex room or single sex room?

What do you mean by this?

That small point has changed in the 2024 documents referenced.

Keeptoiletssafe · 04/10/2025 14:38

I agree with @AnSolas and others about the difference between rooms and cubicles. A cubicle isn’t a room. Legislation was created when rows of unisex cubicles weren’t a thing. At the time of 1992 legislation designs for blocks of toilets were very much ladies and gents with door gaps under and over the doors and partitions and doors that opened up in an emergency. It was stated the latter point was ‘particularly important where elderly or disabled persons or children are involved’. The sinks were in a single sex area outside the cubicles. It certainly wasn’t anticipated that men would be using women’s toilets or vice versa. It was only designated ‘disabled’ toilets that were mixed sex (unisex) and were a separate room and completely private as standard with a sink inside them. These are covered in the different Part M of Building Standards.

This is from the British Standards 6465 (part 1) on toilets which were from the 1984 edition regarding ‘schools, offices, factories, public buildings and public conveniences’ and were the standards in place when the 1992 legislation was being set up so this was what the legislators were working with, regarding standards:

…where a range of WCs is provided, each in a separate cubicle within a single room, e.g. in schools, offices, factories, public buildings and public conveniences, it simplifies ventilation, cleaning and, to some extent, supervision and prevention of wilful misuse, if the cubicle walls terminate above the floor as well as below the ceiling. These advantages are gained only at the expense of a certain degree of privacy. Where cubicles are used, the whole room in which they are situated may be regarded as a single unit for the purposes of ventilation.
Where partition walls and doors of WC cubicles are kept clear of the floor, the clearance should be not less than 100 mm and not more than 150 mm. Partitions and doors that terminate below ceiling level should be not less than 2 m in height from the floor.

Note all the italic bits are directly taken from the standards and centred on health and safety needs.

Doc T is from Building Standards BS 6465 (1-4) which has evolved over time. The good thing if there’s a big refurbishment (anything from 2024) for building regs it should conform to Document T which prioritises single sex toilets. Unisex should only go in after single sex provision is satisfied. Document T doesn’t apply to schools.

In 2008 accessibility was about older people and disabled people not being isolated (See Provision of Public Toilets 2008 on gov.uk). Now public council-run toilets are so few there are all sorts of weird and wonderful designs have replaced them in businesses, cafes etc, forgetting health and safety principles.

‘Inclusive’ in toilet-speak just seems to mean private cubicles. It’s a buzz word not a legal or standard term.There’s no criteria on whether washbasins are in or out of the inclusive cubicle/room but usually it is a feature everyone shares the sink to make it inclusive to everyone. Complete privacy with ‘inclusion’ is a given because no one (except a few men) want to see the feet or hear the opposite sex. The inclusive toilets ignore the standards and legislation which is why Document T incorporated BS6465 and was published to help businesses and the public (British Standards are incredibly expensive, long, and usually only really accessible to architects etc). It was to stop the surge of ‘anything goes’ designs.

Toilet manufacturers seem to promote unisex provision as there’s more equipment involved and pipework etc. From my research I would advise them not to. No demographic (except women who don’t want to use the women’s but also then feel uncomfortable using the men’s) wants this and even then, when given experience and choice, they go back to using the women’s when the unisex ones smell and get dirty. Men who want to use the women’s don’t want unisex, they want women’s toilets. Everyone will say unisex is ‘outing’ - though why disabled toilets are not outing to the many people who need them is then incomprehensible.

I would want them to think of:
fire risks assessments (how difficult it becomes to evacuate a building when you have to check each toilet room and unlock it) real inclusivity for people with medical vulnerabilities such at diabetes, epilepsy and heart conditions (where the ability to pull an emergency cord will be compromised). This is an important consideration because 11% of cardiac arrests happen on the loo. Normally a door gap would inform others that the occupant was in trouble immediately upon entering the single sex space before the toilet cubicles. In ‘olden day’ toilets there were more attendants which helped. Now people can be left for days because there’s no supervision for locked cubicles and people don’t check. They assume someone is in there or it’s broken. At worst, and this is blunt but reality, it may be only when there is a smell that people start to notice.

Some have put intercom systems in to their private toilet cubicles. They have costly mechanical ventilation. All more cost, more stuff to go wrong and places to hide ting cameras (some so small they are disguised as screws). Individual emergency lighting and sound/flashing alarms are a factor to cost in too rather than one on the ceiling of the single sex sink area that people can hear and notice the flashing from a gap over the cubicle door. The single sex cubicles with door gaps and sink outside in a single sex area were what legislation was meaning when it said ‘(f)the rooms containing them are sufficiently ventilated and lit;’.

I have so much research to show unisex toilets are worst. For hygiene see this: salus.global/article-show/pathogen-findings-raise-concerns-about-move-to-unisex-hospital-facilities

There are a few tweaks that need sorting out. Remember because people collapse in toilets (collapsing behind any locked door is the number one call out for the London Fire Brigade) the building regs rightly say every toilet door should be able to be opened outwards. So there’s no such thing as the door being completely secure. This conflicts with:h)separate facilities are provided for men and women, except where and so far as they are provided in a room the door of which is capable of being secured from inside….’
If secured was defined in legislation as being able to be opened in an emergency then it would naturally lead to people realising more dangers of unisex toilets.

Any unisex toilet should be in as busy thoroughfare as possible. However in reality this isn’t a fail-safe preventative measure otherwise there wouldn’t be so many attacks in disabled (now called accessible) toilets or train carriage toilets. It also means doors are self-closing as they are more likely to be fire doors so worse for people being left (or pushed or led into) a sound resistant and unseen room.

I believe BS6465 is going to be looked again soon. Annoyingly, in Document T they didn’t specifically specify door gaps for separate sex cubicle toilets. The HSE have since told me the single sex cubicles (designs C and D) can have gaps above and below partitions and doors, and the building regulations documents certainly had them in for good reasons as shown above. As usual, all mixed sex toilets have sinks inside the enclosed area, with the toilet. I hope there is mention of specific door gaps again on the grounds of health and safety.

I know the gaps have been designed out of toilets cubicles in single sex toilets. There is direct link to ‘inclusivity’ and have traced it back to the influence of Stonewall, American transactivists and a large architect firm who were advising the government. It’s easily traced from reference and evidence lists because I followed it from Document T backwards from all the consultation and analysis documents that are still on the government website. Inclusivity just means mixed sex by a different name without any regard to health and safety.

Women have greater safety requirements and good sightlines enable women to feel more comfortable. Toilets need to be close to the woman’s workstation and not in an isolated area. Women do not need men exposing themselves accidentally or on purpose when men forget to close the cubicle door. Women need sinks in a single sex space to wash blood off clothing and hands.

HSE consider employers should ensure workers have reasonable adjustments for medical/health needs. For example there is an example on how a man with prostate cancer can get changes made to his toileting facilities. I think this sets a precedent for single sex toilets (with the standard gaps) to be available as an option because their design is needed for people with invisible disabilities such as diabetes, epilepsy, heart conditions, elderly people as risk of falls and, women, particularly with endometriosis and trauma. Being a woman isn’t a medical problem (!) but we have health and safety needs that require separate toilets from men. All people convicted of voyeurism and rape of women and young children in toilets are men.
https://www.hse.gov.uk/disability/employers-duties/examples.htm

Regarding voyeurism, I think mobile phone cameras have obviously had a big role in cubicles becoming private. However this is now not such a persuasive argument because: Women’s toilets are for women, there are specific new voyeurism laws, and hidden cameras are so prevalent (easy and cheap and gather lots of info) that a man is less likely to go into a women’s toilet with door gaps waiting around and take a risk. A private mixed sex cubicle gives more footage and more opportunity - he’s not out of place being there, a £25-from-Amazon hidden camera is easier to install, hide, and it is less risky. People tend to ‘do more’ in private cubicles.

Ironically, there was a poster claiming to be from Melbourne on another thread very much in favour of inclusive toilets and so I googled his area to show what’s going on is universal and there’s a doctor who has filmed around 460 other staff on the toilets. There’s lawyers involved. Businesses can prevent this by design so cubicles are single sex, have door gaps to prevent ‘wilful misuse’ and make the inside as simple as possible (no extras like mechanical ventilation, hand dryers, sinks) so it would be easy to spot a camera. Do businesses really need this liability? www.carbonelawyers.com.au/case-files/nurses-doctors-could-receive-big-payouts-from-melbourne-hospitals-after-they-were-allegedly-filmed-in-toilets/

Also complicating matters is different legislation for different countries within the U.K. and the education guidelines are different again. There’s 1967 legislation for Scotland I believe.

Here’s a safety in design bit that discusses a row of cubicles - it’s a video clip that is worth discussing with employers:

Employers’ duties in protecting disabled people at work: Practical examples of how to promote disability equality at work - HSE

These examples show how taking practical steps and involving disabled workers in developing solutions can promote disability equality in managing health and safety

https://www.hse.gov.uk/disability/employers-duties/examples.htm

MyAmpleSheep · 04/10/2025 16:28

AnSolas · 04/10/2025 12:29

Ignoring the toilet

And looking at the washing facilities solo on what basis are you saying that an employer can be sure that an employee will never be is a position to need to wash a body part other than face hands and forearms on the property?

I have been in bog standard "safe" office with people spilling tea and coffee on themselves ans/or others or printer toner incidents where they discovered shaking the toner a la Tom Cruise in Cocktail is not a bright idea etc

So whats the suitable and sufficient washing facilities in these instance ?

Mixed sex room or single sex room?

What do you mean by this?

That small point has changed in the 2024 documents referenced.

And looking at the washing facilities solo on what basis are you saying that an employer can be sure that an employee will never be is a position to need to wash a body part other than face hands and forearms on the property?

I don't believe I said that.

I have been in bog standard "safe" office with people spilling tea and coffee on themselves ans/or others or printer toner incidents where they discovered shaking the toner a la Tom Cruise in Cocktail is not a bright idea etc

So have I, but I don't think that gives rise to an employer obligation to provide washing facilities beyond the handwashing facilities that accompany toilets. It would be a novel submission to a court to say that an employer has to provide full body showers for toner accidents.

So whats the suitable and sufficient washing facilities in these instance ?
Mixed sex room or single sex room?

I'm not sure where you're going with this, which comes over as very aggressive. It's a question for each employer to answer, not me.

What do you mean by this?
That small point has changed in the 2024 documents referenced.

What I mean is that in 1992 regulations which permit unisex lavatories in individual don't require washing facilities in those rooms; the washing facilities can be mixed-sex and in the immediate vicinity instead.

Under the new document T rule, anyone building single-user toilet rooms has to put a washbasin in the room with the toilet; in the new approved Document T there is a definition of a Universal toilet: Toilet facilities provided in a fully enclosed room which contains a water-closet and washbasin and hand-drying facilities, and is intended for individual use by persons of either sex."

For a washbasin to be included with the w-c is a new requirement. It isn't mandated under the 1992 building regulations.

Document T also has the requirement that there actually be single-sex toilets, with universal toilets additionally provided by choice. That is also new.