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SEEN in Journalism: The lessons of Minneapolis

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SionnachRuadh · 29/08/2025 14:44

A useful post on how the media have tied themselves in knots over the Minneapolis shooter's trans status.

Also, very importantly - in cases of mass shootings there's often discussion of the shooter's mental health. In cases of mass shooters with special identities, that runs up against ideological taboos.

The lessons of Minneapolis - SEENinJournalism’s Substack

The lessons of Minneapolis

And how the media hid them

https://seeninjournalism.substack.com/p/the-lessons-of-minneapolis

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/08/2025 17:31

nauticant · 29/08/2025 17:05

You might be interested in this article by Justin Webb in today's The Times @Pluvia:

https://archive.ph/57INs

Donald Trump didn’t start this quiet war on woke

Like his Republican Party takeover or social media use, the president’s attack on universities simply tapped into a growing mood

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I read that this morning and thought it was excellent.

Pluvia · 29/08/2025 17:52

Thanks for the archived version @nauticant Good for Justin Webb, he's been plugging away quietly on Radio 4 for years.

@SeinfeldsMom what do you have to say about that?

I'm currently reading An Instance of the Fingerpost by Iain Pears, which I got about halfway through when it was first published nearly 30 years ago and which resonates like crazy now. It's set in Oxford and London in 1663 and it's about all the chicanery and in-fighting of the Stuart succession. It's also about the old meeting the new — old religion being challenged by the new evidence-based science and maths and new technology coming up against true believers of all varieties, all plotting and scheming and sharing information and disinformation and trying to affect their ends. I'm constantly brought up short by parallels and echoes of what we're going through today: the Gender ideologues and anti-vaxxers are today's true believers whom nothing can shake, the scientific and philosophical developments echo the impact of our tech revolution. And still the aching awful depths of misogyny. Very mindful that the UK exported a lot of its religious extremists to the US and that their religiosity is still visible today. Highly recommended for those who love a good (accurate and reality-based) historical novel with a touch of the whodunnit about it. Can't believe it hasn't been turned in to a Netflix series.

Merrymouse · 29/08/2025 17:56

Pluvia · 29/08/2025 17:52

Thanks for the archived version @nauticant Good for Justin Webb, he's been plugging away quietly on Radio 4 for years.

@SeinfeldsMom what do you have to say about that?

I'm currently reading An Instance of the Fingerpost by Iain Pears, which I got about halfway through when it was first published nearly 30 years ago and which resonates like crazy now. It's set in Oxford and London in 1663 and it's about all the chicanery and in-fighting of the Stuart succession. It's also about the old meeting the new — old religion being challenged by the new evidence-based science and maths and new technology coming up against true believers of all varieties, all plotting and scheming and sharing information and disinformation and trying to affect their ends. I'm constantly brought up short by parallels and echoes of what we're going through today: the Gender ideologues and anti-vaxxers are today's true believers whom nothing can shake, the scientific and philosophical developments echo the impact of our tech revolution. And still the aching awful depths of misogyny. Very mindful that the UK exported a lot of its religious extremists to the US and that their religiosity is still visible today. Highly recommended for those who love a good (accurate and reality-based) historical novel with a touch of the whodunnit about it. Can't believe it hasn't been turned in to a Netflix series.

Loved that book! I think I have forgotten it enough to read it again.

Pluvia · 29/08/2025 18:38

It's amazing. And 1663 seems like yesterday.

LibertyKnickers · 29/08/2025 18:59

My DH and I read An Instance outloud to one another and we barely make it through the first account* it was so boring. Later we realised that the dullness was intentional and actually a brilliant first-person representation of how that character wanted to appear, which was nothing like what he was actually like or was really up to. It's a terrific novel.

*For those who haven't read it, there's a sort of Rashomon thing going on.

Britinme · 29/08/2025 19:54

SionnachRuadh · 29/08/2025 16:28

Oddly enough, a couple of American states have recently redesigned their flags. I approve of this in principle, because American state flags are often really ugly, which is why you rarely see them except when the governor is giving a speech.

Minnesota has a new flag that looks very similar to the flag of Somalia, and I'm sure has absolutely nothing to do with the large and politically influential Somali community in Minneapolis.

Utah has adopted the Beehive Flag of Mormon theocracy, but nobody seems to have noticed that.

Maine's new flag is lousy. It hangs from flagstaffs, most of it not visible unless the wind is blowing strongly, and looks like a dishrag. It's now repeated on license plates, except the image is supposed to be a pine tree and looks more like a spruce. Bah.

OuterSpaceCadet · 29/08/2025 20:08

What a great article!

I'm not surprised this thread pretty swiftly attracted a gender stereotype loving scold desperate to distract from it.

The FBI's list of concerning behaviours to look out for in order to prevent* more attacks is informative. I think I'd become too used to trans rights ideology's violent rhetoric, but it's quite chilling to see how many behaviours are exhibited by the activist extremists the movement refuses to reject.

  • I don't pay that much attention to USA talking about preventing attacks. For whatever reason, gun ownership doesn't work for them (I know there are countries where gun ownership doesn't = countless mass shootings. I don't know what makes that possible. In general, removing opportunity is a good way to prevent crime. Hence why single sex spaces exist).
ArmchairXpert · 29/08/2025 20:39

Great article, thanks for sharing!

TeiTetua · 29/08/2025 21:27

Britinme · 29/08/2025 19:54

Maine's new flag is lousy. It hangs from flagstaffs, most of it not visible unless the wind is blowing strongly, and looks like a dishrag. It's now repeated on license plates, except the image is supposed to be a pine tree and looks more like a spruce. Bah.

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You drove me to go and look it up, and it seems that Maine's proposed new flag was rejected in a referendum last year. The existing flag is quite benign, but one notes that it features a male moose between a male farmer and a male sailor. So I suppose the state depends on the farms, the ocean and the forest, but it's clear who's in charge everywhere.

Britinme · 30/08/2025 03:34

We do have a female governor, one female Senator (but it’s Susan Collins so…) and one female Representative though. Sadly our governor is a bit of a trans handmaiden, despite being a good egg in other respects.

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