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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

TRAs appropriate "Safe Spaces" phrase

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IwantToRetire · 15/08/2025 19:14

As we know many politicians use this phrase to avoid having to say single sex ie biological women only

How strange (not) that it is now being used as a campaign to create "safe spaces" for trans people in local communities!

No suprise to find the campaign started in Bristol.

https://www.bristol247.com/lgbtq/features-lgbtq/safe-spaces-the-group-calling-for-bristol-businesses-to-support-trans-rights/

Safe Spaces: the group calling for Bristol businesses to support trans rights

Safe Space Bristol is uniting businesses against the EHRC'S new proposed Code of Practice

https://www.bristol247.com/lgbtq/features-lgbtq/safe-spaces-the-group-calling-for-bristol-businesses-to-support-trans-rights/

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2025 00:47

No, the term “safe spaces” did not only make the mainstream media when Labour started using it to fudge their intentions. You are simply wrong.

ErrolTheDragon · 17/08/2025 00:54

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2025 00:47

No, the term “safe spaces” did not only make the mainstream media when Labour started using it to fudge their intentions. You are simply wrong.

It also made PMQs (Theresa May) and South Parks.

Signalbox · 17/08/2025 08:23

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2025 00:47

No, the term “safe spaces” did not only make the mainstream media when Labour started using it to fudge their intentions. You are simply wrong.

I agree. I was well aware of the concept of “safe spaces” well before the trans issue took hold and before I started using this board. Its use was rife in lefty politics and university culture. Perhaps the British public at large are less aware of its significance but I do wish KS and other politicians would be challenged on it whenever they say it. It’s even more important to challenge if TRAs think it’s a way to circumnavigate the law (which presumably is why KS started using it as a term in the first place)

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2025 08:29

I’m not sure the British public were hanging on Keir Starmer’s every word about it either. Yes I think it was an attempt to use an activist buzzword to avoid committing himself on the issue either way, and allowing people to interpret the law as it then stood in a way favourable to the message the government wanted to send, which was broadly “inclusive” without directly supporting what trans rights activists wanted, ie self ID.

IwantToRetire · 17/08/2025 17:32

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2025 08:29

I’m not sure the British public were hanging on Keir Starmer’s every word about it either. Yes I think it was an attempt to use an activist buzzword to avoid committing himself on the issue either way, and allowing people to interpret the law as it then stood in a way favourable to the message the government wanted to send, which was broadly “inclusive” without directly supporting what trans rights activists wanted, ie self ID.

That's the point.

Until the media picked up on it because (in their minds) it made Starmer seem even more squirmy, it was not a phrase in public use.

Going on about how anyone as an individual may have heard about is not the same as it becoming part of mainstream media.

And quite honestly I suspect that those who have set up this trans safe space are part of that. Young ideologues who have no memory or knowledge longer than their last SM posting, thought they had hit on something unique to women, and so thought wouldn't it be brilliant to reverse it and make it all about trans.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2025 18:59

It was a phrase in public use, people literally took the piss out of it all the time.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2025 18:59

So it’s you who is missing the point.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/08/2025 19:09

You are correct that trans rights activists appropriate everything and often get a kick out of the outrageous reversal of reality to portray them as the victim and the real victim is the offender (DARVO) , which is something common to cluster B personality disorders such as NPD. But I don’t think this is a particularly egregious use of the phrase here based on how they see things, it’s generally just hyperbole anyway. I also don’t think they used it because of Keir Starmer.

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