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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Serious sexual and violent offenders should be legally confined to specific areas after release from prison

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IwantToRetire · 10/08/2025 18:25

The government is planning new legislation to confine serious sexual and violent criminals to specific zones after they leave prison. The approach suggests flipping the current system that tells them where they can’t go, and instead tightly controlling where they can. Ministers say this would protect victims and give them more peace of mind. But critics worry it could stretch probation services and raise human rights concerns.

https://www.yougov.chat/

Not all groups supporting women who have experienced male violence agree with this:

https://www.womensaid.org.uk/womens-aid-responds-to-the-mojs-announcement-about-new-restriction-zones/

https://refuge.org.uk/news/refuge-welcomes-mojs-new-restriction-zones-to-protect-domestic-abuse-survivors/

Refuge welcomes MOJ’s new ‘restriction zones’ to protect domestic abuse survivors

Refuge welcomes MOJ’s new ‘restriction zones’ to protect domestic abuse survivors - Refuge

https://refuge.org.uk/news/refuge-welcomes-mojs-new-restriction-zones-to-protect-domestic-abuse-survivors/

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Happyher · 11/08/2025 22:22

RawBloomers · 11/08/2025 22:00

Thats not at odds with what I said (though I disagree that the public is actually protected), but it’s a complete change of tack from your previous position which was to suggest people couldn’t be kept in prison longer as their sentence was over. I was just pointing out it is almost never over when they are released.

I don’t think we should abandon paroling people from jail because it’s just too expensive not to. But I don’t agree that VAWG sentences reflect the seriousness of the crime, I don’t think keeping offenders in prison longer would be disproportionate and I think it would go away to better protecting women. While there is some security theatre that goes on with paroled individuals it does not do a great job of protecting the public. Reoffending rates are high.

I was just pointing out it applies in both situ’s. I don’t disagree with your second paragraph but having worked in public protection I do know the work that goes into managing these people when they are released but at the end of the day some will reoffend.

wizzywig · 11/08/2025 22:27

This assumes a person has accommodation, a steady electricity supply, charges their tag, doesn't tamper with it, that there are enough tags to meet demand. Also it doesn't stop victims from deciding that actually they do want to meet their perpetrator. How would it prevent an offender from starting a new relationship? It depends on their self report and being honest

RawBloomers · 11/08/2025 22:35

Happyher · 11/08/2025 22:22

I was just pointing out it applies in both situ’s. I don’t disagree with your second paragraph but having worked in public protection I do know the work that goes into managing these people when they are released but at the end of the day some will reoffend.

over 40% of violent offenders reoffend within 2 years of release. I don’t doubt that people work hard trying to stop reoffending- I’m saying it’s not effective enough. The public is not protected despite those efforts.

TempestTost · 12/08/2025 00:37

This strikes me as a very difficult system to make workable.

Binglebong · 12/08/2025 00:54

While I appreciate that it must be incredibly hard for the victims isn't the likelihood of reoffending reduced where a support system of family and friends is in place? I'm just trying to see how could have that (to reduce wider offending, not because I honestly give a shit about him) while also avoiding the victim seeing him. The likelihood is that offender and victim are geographically connected.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/08/2025 01:20

PutThe · 11/08/2025 19:30

Mmm, as one who lives in an already lower than average income and higher than average deprivation area, I can hazard a guess exactly which places this sort of thing would be confined to.

After all, the state isnt going to accommodate recently released violent prisoners in expensive areas.

I’ve lived in similar places, so I know what you mean.

Timbrelltime · 20/02/2026 19:52

RawBloomers · 11/08/2025 22:35

over 40% of violent offenders reoffend within 2 years of release. I don’t doubt that people work hard trying to stop reoffending- I’m saying it’s not effective enough. The public is not protected despite those efforts.

As fitting and monitoring of any ‘tags’ etc is now privatised (🙀) it isn’t guaranteed and that service is failing right now. There are huge gaps in support for ex-prisoners so re-offending is almost inevitable. There would have to be massive investments to bring services and societal safety back . That’s not going to happen is it?
This is box ticking , won’t make anyone feel safer.

Dragonasaurus · 20/02/2026 20:39

Agree with pp’s who say the current system effectively constrains victims. To add, if as a victim, you and the police determine that you need new areas to be protected (new job/new school etc) that can be arranged. But, in doing so, you are effectively informing your abuser of where you/your children are now going to be.

I’d much prefer the abusers to be restricted, but the area needs to be case by case. Don’t create a ghetto where child abuse/VAWG is considered acceptable by the resident population

RawBloomers · 20/02/2026 23:35

Timbrelltime · 20/02/2026 19:52

As fitting and monitoring of any ‘tags’ etc is now privatised (🙀) it isn’t guaranteed and that service is failing right now. There are huge gaps in support for ex-prisoners so re-offending is almost inevitable. There would have to be massive investments to bring services and societal safety back . That’s not going to happen is it?
This is box ticking , won’t make anyone feel safer.

What do you mean by “bring societal safety back”?

TempestTost · 21/02/2026 01:55

I think this is the kind of thing where practically, the details would make a lot of differernce.

I can see an argument that says that finding ways to deal with criminals like this apart from long prison sentences could have benefits. Not just the cost of housing people, but if they can work, and maybe in terms of stuff like still involved with their family, if that was safe, there would be benefits potentially. To society and the individual.

On the other hand there are the questions of safety, rehabilitation, punishment, justice, and all the rest.

But overall, I am just not sure how practical this scheme sounds. I have heard of cases in the US where the restrictions on a released prisoner were so extensive they could only move around within a tiny area, and it caused all kinds of problems. I don't see how that helps anyone. It seems like it could be difficult to monitor, and there might be so many reasonable exceptions made, or they might need to be modified so often, it would be a lot of work to administer.

GaIadriel · 21/02/2026 01:55

parietal · 10/08/2025 19:04

How would that work if the offender gets a job? Or gets a hospital appointment out of zone? There are systems like this in the USA where offenders end up living in tent camps under the motorway flyover with no access to jobs of healthcare because they can’t legally live in towns. And that seems crazy.

Oh well.... 🤣

TempestTost · 21/02/2026 01:58

GaIadriel · 21/02/2026 01:55

Oh well.... 🤣

It's not good though.

People who can't work end up leaning on public support, or crime. And they are less likely to reintegrate into society successfully.

All you are doing is creating a camp of people with nothing to do, except try and scrape together money for drugs. Probably all dominated by the biggest psychopath of the bunch.

TempestTost · 21/02/2026 01:58

Oh a zombie thread.

SwearyBeary · 21/02/2026 08:55

Wouldn't resources be better spent on keeping violent/ sex offenders locked up and releasing (and monitoring where appropriate) non violent offenders? Surely it would be far easier to keep tracks on criminals convicted of fraud in the community, than ones who have a statistically high chance of continuing to be violent/ sexually fucked up?

logiccalls · 21/02/2026 19:49

It might seem better to accept the rapid advances in drugs and technology.

If women can have three year contraceptive implants, why not let violent people including criminals or mental patients take their vital behaviour-modification medication by implant? Old, male, lawmakers tended to cringe at the idea of what they called "chemical castration". But there are it appears medicines available or able to be developed which can curb most appetites. If the side effect is to cause apathy, that would seem better for the patient/criminal.

The ideal, it would seem, would be to have a mental patient/ or criminal who had low testosterone, low interest in anything, low inclination to anger, and could scarcely if at all be bothered to turn round and look even if there was a view of a child/ chocolate cake/ cup final recording/ vulnerable woman/ bottle of alcohol/ supply of drugs/ perceived 'enemy'.

And, instead of tags which can be cut off, why not implant trackers?

Instead of hopeless, unaffordable attempts by probation officers to discover what people are up to, who they see, where they go and what street drugs or alcohol they consume, why not an implanted blood monitor, triggering an alert to the nearest police car?

And instead of caging in prisons, for a thousand pounds a week, why not use house arrest, monitored by A.I.? It would surely be both far cheaper and far more thorough than prison, which currently introduces people to drugs even if they were not previous users, while also acting as a university of crime, plus validating and reinforcing any behaviour, by meeting others who have done the same.

With house arrest, which could be carried on for life, subject to review by doctors and courts, there could presumably be control of what the occupant can access for entertainment, so there should be no available porn to inflame unhealthy wishes. In fact, whatever is known to rouse violence can be excluded.

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