NHS won’t ban trans women from female changing rooms for months

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The NHS has delayed a ban on staff who are trans women in female changing rooms and lavatories until the autumn.

Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, promised new guidance in April, after the Supreme Court ruled that trans women – people who are biological men – should be barred from using women’s single-sex services.

The Telegraph can reveal that NHS England has no plans to bring out the guidance until “late summer or early autumn” – meaning it may not be published until October or November.

Women’s rights charities said that in not complying with the law, hospitals and GP surgeries were putting female staff and patients in an “undignified and humiliating” position.

The group Sex Matters said it had been approached by staff at several English trusts who had raised objections to biological men in female facilities, but were rebuffed.

NHS England’s delay comes even though a health trust in Scotland faces a huge payout to a nurse who was forced to share a changing room with a trans doctor.

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(There so many NHS threads couldn't work out if this belonged on one of them, or should have its own.)

We do not have such a thing as a class action in the UK, it is called a group litigation order.

I agree with your concerns. Unfortunately, a lot of women from very religious communities such as you describe, don’t always speak much English and so the males argue that they are there to translate. It is very difficult to meet the women’s needs without hearing their voices.

NHS guidelines are that we should not use family members but should book professional interpreters.
We have to be sure the information is being translated literally and not having someone else’s slant put on it. Sometimes we have to ask questions which the patient may not want a family member hearing the answer to.
However many people still bring a family member to interpret!

My description of a man in a female changing room was not some sort of animus against a minority religion. Instead an attempt to illustrate that transwomen are not the only men the NHS allows in women's changing rooms.

What about the elderly lady with dementia who is accompanied by, and only feels safe with, their husband, who is also needed to describe her symptoms and to help her get dressed/undressed.

Based on my experience in East London, thought needs to be given to how to achieve dignity and safety of all patients and staff. My impression was that staff on duty were in an impossible position. There was a sign as you went beyond the main waiting room saying women only, which was roundly ignored. Sitting in a small room in a skimpy hospital gown and an overfull bladder (made worse by my appointment being delayed by an hour) with a man staring at me, was more than uncomfortable. However who should enforce?

Much worse though was the hospital ward. All the patients bar me, appeared to be Bangladeshi, and several families spent the whole night there. Luckily I had been given my own room. I felt quite angry on behalf of the nurse on duty through the night. I had to wait several hours for my discharge to be signed off, so only left at 1.00am and spent much of this time sitting by the nurse's station. She was black and treated with what appeared to be a combination of misogyny and racism by the men who approached her. There is no way she could have tried to enforce visiting hours.

Management, I assume, could have instructed her to call security to enforce visiting hours. But what would have happened? Would the female patients have been allowed to remain on their own? What would have been needed to get them to stay? Nurses who spoke their language? A commitment to a female only staff? Looking back over this thread suggests that even discussing potential issues is sensitive.

NHS Policy is written to allow flexibility to accommodate different needs. This seems to be why you were given a single room. The vast majority of other patients were seeking this sort of “familial” treatment and it had become practice in that setting as a result. Not good that you were promised female only spaces via signage in that situation though. Did you make a complaint?

No complaint.

The first incident with the full bladder was in outpatients. I felt very uncomfortable and it was completely inappropriate, but I assumed that the problem lay not with the staff on duty at the time but the management who had allowed this situation to become general practice. When I returned from the tests there was another couple sitting there, beyond the "women only" sign, though not as much of an issue as I simply needed to get changed and go home.

The second was post-operation. Though she said nothing I picked up that the nurse working nights seemed happy for me to sit near her workstation reading a book whilst she completed paperwork and other duties. It was several hours before the harried F2 carrying a bleep arrived to sign off my discharge.

I therefore overheard the various demands made on her, of the warming babies bottles type, from people who were not her patients. Kids running round a post operative ward until the early hours was also not appropriate. The nurse was very impressive, firm but diplomatic, but she should not have been placed in that position. If a problem had arisen she would have been very vulnerable. There was obvious tension, which seemed to be based on misogyny/racism. How dare a black woman refuse the demands of a man.

Women should be able to be ill in their own space. Staff should be looking after patients, not visitors.

The general point is how do you prevent transwomen but not other men, whether they be carers or come from patriarchal cultures. Given NHS policy is written to allow flexibility to accommodate different needs. Especially given what seems to be an acceptance that at times the needs of women can be subordinated to the needs of men.

Genuine question. It won't be easy.

it will be difficult. But in the case you describe it’s extra odd - the males were there to “protect” their women (?) but surely if men were all excluded from that space no protection would be required? It sounds like management were being slack because no one on the feminist side was complaining?

I suspect that there are several places in the UK, not just Tower Hamlets, where situations like this are the norm. Women who rarely leave the house unaccompanied and who have not been able to gain a working command of English. And whose menfolk give them little agency and expect to make decisions on their behalf.

I speak an Asian Muslim language and have Muslim friends who have recently been involved in a significant court case which aimed to push back the gradual creep of Shariah law over civil law, in order to protect women's rights. My friends would see themselves as devout Muslims concerned about the cultural spread of Wahhabism, something they see as threatening women's rights.

In the UK we have got very timid about addressing real issues for fear of being labelled transphobic or racist or "right-wing". The irony is that by not discussing issues constructively within the centre-ground they become click bait articles for GB News. I would argue that this ultra-sensitivity is behind the appearance of Trump and Farage, in the same way that the the Treaty of Versailles created the environment that produced Hitler.

But back to hospital wards. I don't want men in women's wards. I also don't want men in womens prisons. A "case by case" approach puts too much responsibility of individuals. It is an easy cop out. So I might feel sympathy for the elderly man with the confused wife. I felt humiliated and concerned for hospital staff in a dedicated women's hospital. I would feel angry (and complain) if I found myself in a bed next to an AGP.

It won't be easy, but any policy needs to be both clear and robust.