My son’s school insisting he calls NB teacher Mx

[Justme56]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/01/my-sons-school-insisting-he-calls-non-binary-teacher-mx/

‘Confusion about the rights of staff to have their identity recognised, is undermining the rights of children to be protected from dogma’

It is important that children know what sex their teachers are. It is important that teachers don't try and hide what sex they are. Mx might be fine as a title, but not if it is intentionally to obscure others knowing what sex you are.

Teaching and teachers have been trying to breakdown gender stereotypes for years, Trying to get girls into STEM, Maths etc. (there are many grants for it) and boys in to HE/food, Textiles, dance, drama etc., (strangely though very few grants for this).

The Gender ideology movement has been a huge set back for this.

But if you see someone listen as Mx then they will be judged in different ways.

I'm not sure there is a legal or moral right to have your gender identity/gender fluidity recognised. It's very much the same as preferred pronouns. Don't compel kids' speech, is my initial reaction.

Mrs = married woman
Miss = unmarried woman
Ms = woman
Mr = man

Mx is the usual made-up nonsense.

MX. Utter fucking nonsense. How are these muppets allowed to get away with it?!

Why? Why is a teacher’s sex important? is there anything a Mr can do and a Mrs can in terms of teaching?

😆 I can just imagine that!

Why? So a kid knows whether the teacher is married or not.

It's a name, the kids will cope.

Well I’m not Catholic but I still referred to a priest I worked with as Father. It’s not a belief system I subscribe to, but it was what he introduced himself as and I respect his beliefs. This isn’t rocket science.

Yes, but your priest was a priest. A real thing. Nonbinary is not a real thing.

Mx is not a name - it's a title which is meant to indicate that the person bearing it is neither one sex or the other.
Which is nonsense.

This.

A written and possibly spoken solution would be just to use M (em) for all. M Smith, M Jones, M Robinson. A problem could be that people might think they were identifying as French. Or of course that they just had forenames beginning with M.
On second thoughts, forget it.

I was frequently called Sir at school, despite my crazy lady vibes. I was officially Ms, referred to by staff as Mrs and by kids as Miss (when not Sir). Confusing times.

ETA Mx is ridiculous, as is the concept of non-binary.

Probably not, But that's not the point. The point of Mx is to pretend that this male is neither male nor female.

Hmph, in secondary school, quite frankly, most kids will just see it as a load of old bilge, and almost certainly the teacher will be referred to as ‘sir’ or ‘miss’. At primary it’s more of an issue, kids learn from and trust what adults tell them, particularly an adult in authority. If the person wanting to be referred to as ‘Mx’ also believes there are more than two biological sexes or starts talking absolute guff about Robert(a) Cowell, then there is an issue. Humans can not change sex. It really is that simple, and kids should be taught factual information when it comes to biology. I though all this nonsense was quietly going away, but I guess it will be a few more years to go, before the lawsuits start building momentum and psychologists and sociologists start writing thesis on how a generation has been led up the garden path and round the bend.

Narcissistic pish.

This.

We have a non-binary teacher in my place of work, they just go by their surname (generally speaking it's Sir or Miss).

I'm a Ms...it's important to me as post-divorce I chose the title and reverted to my maiden name. The kids largely call me Miss, but I don't really like being called 'Mrs Surname' as is often the assumption (actually more by staff) - sometimes I'll let it go, sometimes I'll gently correct someone that does it.

I don't see using the term Mx as anything more than a respect for someone's preferences tbh.

Yes. And sir is a title which implies looking up to someone, whereas Miss is a diminutive.
They can’t centre ‘gender ideology’ in their teaching. They have to teach the national curriculum so it’ll be algebra or one of the world wars or the biological diversity of the Amazon or whatever. If they fail to do that, they will rightly be picked up for failing to meet professional standards. They will similarly be challenged if children in their classes fail to make expected progress.

I’m Christian, my children attend Catholic schools. Unsurprisingly and entirely correctly they learn about evolution and the Big Bang. If I had sat telling my form about the garden of Eden and creationism, I would have been pulled up. There were a list of things we were supposed to achieve and that wasn’t on it.

You're getting in a twist about something that's really not important.

Kids just accept things, it's hardly going to traumatize them.

I don't respect anyone's belief that it's possible to be neither male nor female. It's nonsense.

Neither do I respect someone's belief that embodying neither all the stereotypical feminine traits nor all the stereotypical male ones makes you a 3rd category of human who requires a new label. What it does is makes you a completely normal person. Virtually nobody embodies all the male or female stereotypes.

There's no reason we should necessarily respect all beliefs.

Kids just accept things,

precisely. Non binary is nonsense. This chap is pushing the idea that he’s neither a man nor a woman which is clearly bollocks

I sure as heck wouldn’t want my kids ‘just accepting’ that. The school who employed him are setting themselves up for a world of hurt

Agree

My older two kids have done gap year teaching, on separate continents, & been addressed as Teacher Name, or T (pronounced 'tee') Name.

So it would be 'Teacher Fred, can I go to the toilet?' or 'Tee Ginny, I've forgotten my homework.'

This struck me as eminently sensible. Nicely respectful, inclusive of all, & no confusion over honorifics & teachers with a gender agenda have it quietly rendered irrelevant.

One might wonder why the genderists have not suggested such an approach, rather than getting all Mx-y about it...

A teacher using ‘Mx’ is absolutely going to be immediately judged and classified, just not on their sex.