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Amnesty International what has happened to you?

36 replies

ChocolateGanache · 12/06/2025 08:58

FFS. This was once upon a time such an admirable, outstanding organisation.

They appear to be completely anti feminist drama llamas these days!

Amnesty International what has happened to you?
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marshmallowpuff · 12/06/2025 09:04

FFS you would think a proper organisation / charity ought to get things correct. No-one is targeting trans people, certainly not the government — and the Supreme Court isn’t the government anyway, even if it was!

I’m so sick of this climate where activist organisations seem to think it’s OK to misrepresent reality and facts, and instead just put out hyperbole, scaremongering nonsense and downright untruths. We wouldn’t put up with it on any other issue, so why is it so prevalent on this one? (Transperbole strikes again…)

ItsCoolForCats · 12/06/2025 09:14

Apart from the fact that it is inaccurate, it is really alarmist. Trans people are treated as if they are made of glass and are constantly being told that they are the most marginalised and persecuted group in existence. Seeing this type of messaging all the time really won't help.

The law is the law, and other people have rights too. We will never be able to have a sensible discussion about this whilst organisations like Amnesty keep carrying on like this.

If they're not happy with the law, instead of talking about what baddies the Supreme Court judges are, why don't they lobby parliament to change it?

DrBlackbird · 12/06/2025 09:39

I’m confused by the accompanying image. What is it meant to portray?

musicalfrog · 12/06/2025 09:43

Surely there is an equivalent to a trading standards body to deal with this kind of misinformation?

miraxxx · 12/06/2025 09:47

You haven't been paying attention if you think this is a recent trajectory by Amnesty. Google Gita Sahgal - she was the woman they threw under the bus for religious fundamentalists. All the way back in 2010.

lcakethereforeIam · 12/06/2025 09:50

You'd think Amnesty would understand about the separation of powers.

Toseland · 12/06/2025 09:58

I just don't believe this claim that they face violence, discrimination and poor healthcare.
Almost every corporation, government dept, council, NHS dept, shop and service in this country are currently waving their flags?!
Amnesty are trolling women who really do face violence, discrimination and poor healthcare.
Something is wrong here - the Charities Commission should investigate.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 12/06/2025 10:10

DrBlackbird · 12/06/2025 09:39

I’m confused by the accompanying image. What is it meant to portray?

Yes, that's what's puzzling me, too. Can't work it out at all.

Amnesty has been ridiculous on this issue for years, so that part is no surprise.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/06/2025 10:15

Someone in some kind of pleather jerkin?

NPET · 12/06/2025 12:23

Ridiculous!
"Poor healthcare"?
I'm sure everyone throughout the world claims "poor healthcare" whether through costs or waiting lists, but it would certainly SEEM as if the NHS was doing everything in its power to help trans ppl.

AlexandraLeaving · 12/06/2025 12:46

I find this sort of obvious untruth makes me doubt the truth of what Amnesty is saying and campaigning for in countries whose politics I do not fully understand and therefore rely on others for. I don’t like feeling sceptical because I think that is the route to turning a blind eye to the suffering of others. But why would they be truthful about (eg) Iran and Afghanistan if they are dishonest about the U.K.? They damage their cause by being so blatantly dishonest, biased and partisan on this issue.

CassOle · 12/06/2025 12:52

NoBinturongsHereMate · 12/06/2025 10:10

Yes, that's what's puzzling me, too. Can't work it out at all.

Amnesty has been ridiculous on this issue for years, so that part is no surprise.

I think we are meant to look at the person on the left who is wearing the lovely Amnesty Pride bracelet and think, 'Oh, that's lovely. I need one of those' and then we will all buy one to show our allegiance to all things Trans and to stick it to the meanies at the Supreme Court.

marshmallowpuff · 12/06/2025 12:55

AlexandraLeaving · 12/06/2025 12:46

I find this sort of obvious untruth makes me doubt the truth of what Amnesty is saying and campaigning for in countries whose politics I do not fully understand and therefore rely on others for. I don’t like feeling sceptical because I think that is the route to turning a blind eye to the suffering of others. But why would they be truthful about (eg) Iran and Afghanistan if they are dishonest about the U.K.? They damage their cause by being so blatantly dishonest, biased and partisan on this issue.

^This, absolutely. When I see dishonest and inflated claims made by organisations on this issue, I automatically assume that they are doing the same thing elsewhere and are either bad faith actors or they’re on the grift. It’s a huge shame, I used even to organise letter-writing sessions years ago at uni, but any trust I had in Amnesty as a reputable organisation has been completely destroyed by their shilling for the trans nonsense.

DifferentChoicesTooLate · 12/06/2025 13:04

Poor Healthcare???

Oooo does that mean AI are going to start protesting on behalf of all women who have a range of genealogical problems that have been massively ignored throughout the history of medicine? Brilliant can’t wait.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 12/06/2025 13:04

CassOle · 12/06/2025 12:52

I think we are meant to look at the person on the left who is wearing the lovely Amnesty Pride bracelet and think, 'Oh, that's lovely. I need one of those' and then we will all buy one to show our allegiance to all things Trans and to stick it to the meanies at the Supreme Court.

Edited

It probably is the intention. But they could have just shown the bracelet, or the bracelet on a hand, or lots of whole people each wearing one.

Showing cut off bits of 2 people in an uninterpretable pose (and an odd pleather jerkin) is a strong distraction from the bracelet point, without making any apparent alternative or additional point.

HappyNewTaxYear · 12/06/2025 13:07

NoBinturongsHereMate · 12/06/2025 13:04

It probably is the intention. But they could have just shown the bracelet, or the bracelet on a hand, or lots of whole people each wearing one.

Showing cut off bits of 2 people in an uninterpretable pose (and an odd pleather jerkin) is a strong distraction from the bracelet point, without making any apparent alternative or additional point.

The trust fund intern designed it for them…

CassOle · 12/06/2025 13:07

Yep, it's a terrible photo. Why they chose it is beyond me.

Anzena · 12/06/2025 13:08

DrBlackbird · 12/06/2025 09:39

I’m confused by the accompanying image. What is it meant to portray?

I'm see a pregnant transman and a transwoman with period cramps. Well they did mention healthcare for trans, so.....

JasmineAllen · 12/06/2025 13:13

DrBlackbird · 12/06/2025 09:39

I’m confused by the accompanying image. What is it meant to portray?

It is a bit odd. I think it's an overweight man in black with his arm touching another man in white trousers (that fit in a weird way so it outlines his penis).
It'd certainly an odd choice of photo, maybe meant to represent 2 gay men?

viques · 12/06/2025 13:21

I supported AIUK for years, and helped run a local group. I was so proud of some of the campaigns we ran, for example Amnesty had a long-standing policy of not running campaigns about a country in that country because it could be dangerous, but made an exception when they ran a huge UK campaign highlighting Violence Against Women. We campaigned for political prisoners, for womens groups, for imprisoned journalists, we did letter writing, we went into schools and ran workshops, we kept our local MPs informed about our work, it was full on , and for some people it made a huge difference to their lives.

Then they drank the free kool aid Stonewall et al gave out and AIUK and I parted company because I felt there were far more important Human Rights abuses that needed the AIUK spotlight than the ones they seemed to think warranted a heavy use of limited resources. And looking at how they are today I made the right decision.

I now support MSF who have boots on the ground and do make a difference.

And yes, I do know that many countries make life impossible for gay or trans identifying people.

Moremountains · 12/06/2025 13:27

If the person on the left is a pregnant transmen (a woman), a more suitable message would be that we have to thank the SC for clarifying that transmen don't lose their pregnancy rights!

HappyNewTaxYear · 12/06/2025 13:27

I first came across Amnesty International when they were supporting political prisoners in the former Yugoslavia in the late 1980s. Presumably no countries have such people now 🙄

marshmallowpuff · 12/06/2025 13:54

When I ran a letter-writing group it was for religious or political prisoners who had been locked up without trial in terrible conditions in countries like Iran and Yemen. Given that I’m not aware that the Iranian regime has become all cuddly-bunny since then, the notion that middle aged men in the U.K. who want oestrogen and boob jobs (in a country with free NHS healthcare!) are suffering some kind of similar deprivation of rights is really grotesque.

Women and girls really are being denied their basic rights “to exist” in Afghanistan, and yet where is the big campaign on this? Instead, Amnesty is fannying around trying to claim that trans people (read: MEN) in Western countries are being “denied access to healthcare” and “attacked by the government”. What fecking nonsense, Amnesty. WE SEE YOU.

HappyNewTaxYear · 12/06/2025 13:59

marshmallowpuff · 12/06/2025 13:54

When I ran a letter-writing group it was for religious or political prisoners who had been locked up without trial in terrible conditions in countries like Iran and Yemen. Given that I’m not aware that the Iranian regime has become all cuddly-bunny since then, the notion that middle aged men in the U.K. who want oestrogen and boob jobs (in a country with free NHS healthcare!) are suffering some kind of similar deprivation of rights is really grotesque.

Women and girls really are being denied their basic rights “to exist” in Afghanistan, and yet where is the big campaign on this? Instead, Amnesty is fannying around trying to claim that trans people (read: MEN) in Western countries are being “denied access to healthcare” and “attacked by the government”. What fecking nonsense, Amnesty. WE SEE YOU.

It’s an easier gig though isn’t it. Middle-aged pervs in secure situations versus difficult and dangerous regimes. Order fifty thousand rainbow bracelets, and look, your job is done. Add it to LinkedIn and move on to your next social justice warrior post.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/06/2025 14:05

What @HappyNewTaxYear said.