Bumping man!!! Or body check assaults on women

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I am utterly dumbfounded

https://www.mylondon.news/news/east-london-news/men-purposely-bumping-women-public-31701847?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=exchange

A lady and her baby got pushed into the canal in King’s Cross

Please someone tell me this is a hoax.

That's shocking. As are some of the comments under it. Apparently we deserve it because we wanted equality...

I think the deliberately bumping / pushing women is a thing, unfortunately, known as butsukari otoko in Japan. I had it happen to me years ago. The woman and the baby going into the canal seems to be a different matter altogether with the woman being arrested for attempted murder LBC news
Unless anyone else has any info, it seems like the two things have got mixed up on social media.

I've certainly seen more reports of this, but aren't sure if this is because the media are picking up on social media posts and there isn't an increase, but has been going on for years.

Although this news report does reference Japan and incels https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/men-purposely-bumping-women-street-10206279

Trouble with coverage like this is that plenty of men will read it and think brilliant, game on. It’s an idea that will spread.

I've only heard of it recently and am wondering if it's in retaliation for some women who have started to refuse to move out of the way since lockdown. I never realised how much further I walked than DH until lockdown when I was forever hopping into the road out of other people's way. He didn't. So I started refusing too. Is it called pavement chicken or something?

I experienced something like this a while ago. I was in a supermarket and as I turned from an aisle I was completely floored with pain that my legs give way. I realised a guy had pushed his trolley full force into my hip and side of my leg. It happened so fast and it took a while to get my breath back. The man looked like he was sneering and he never said one word. I don't think anyone else noticed and I just wanted to get out as fast as possible. His behaviour disgusted me then and still does. The amount of times people walk in front of my trolley but Iike normal people I stop to avoid hurting someone!

Yes, pavement chicken is definitely a thing I've heard. I'm glad the woman and baby in the canal, although horrific, is unconnected. There was the incident a few years ago when a male jogger pushed a female pedestrian into the road. It happened on one of the London bridges. although being caught on a security camera the man was never identified. But this seems new. The incident posted upthread in Japan, there must have been at least two men in cahoots. One to carry out the assault and the other to film it. It wasn't a spur of the moment thing, it was premeditated, predatory.

I've heard of this trend. I stated doing pavement chicken in the last six months. Teenagers and young men always move out of the way. It's the 40 to roughly 65 age group that seem to expect you to move. The worst reaction was a man about 60 who just kept walking, stopped in front of me and roared jesus, then made a big display of stepping out of the way.

It happened to me (middle aged woman) in Manchester a couple of weekends ago, in the evening. A burly man deliberately walked into the side of me - my daughter asked if I'd been bumped, I'd never heard of it before! I was angry more than anything, but it was over before I had time to respond. I wasn't playing pavement chicken.

This always reminds me of the jogger that nearly killed a woman (literally) pushing her into the path of a bus. The fact he got away with it when there were clear pictures of him - I can’t believe nobody recognised him.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-44639208.amp

And I call it patriarchy chicken - when women decide to not just move out of everyone’s way.

It happened me once coming out of a Tube station, up the steps. I got a full force two hand shove in the back that sent me to the floor. I’ve no idea who or why.

Time to start wearing spiky clothing. Let the men impale themselves.

Has anyone also noticed that men expect you to move for them on the sidewalks? If I see men walking 2-3 abreast and I remember, I refuse to step off the path for them and keep walking. Some of them will quite literally walk right into you rather than consider walking behind their companions…I tend to stop right in front of them if they’re significantly larger than me, because physics is not a friend in that situation

This happened to me. I reported it to the police and was told I should have tried harder to get out of the man's way. It wasn't possible for me to move any further to the side without climbing into a bush (it was in a park with a wide path and I was at the edge) but when I questioned this Police Scotland confirmed that I should indeed have jumped into the bushes if I wasn't able to get out of the man's way in time. I still see him around locally and it makes me feel sick.

I know someone who did this a few years ago. He had a mix of mental health issues and autism, then while going through some horrid personal times, over the course of 6 months became hyper fixated on incel websites on line. He was sucked into an echo chamber and simmering with anger towards all girls and women, All this was reported to safeguarding bodies.

Make it trendy (image pending)

Yes, I remember this one. Really shocking - with those pictures so clear.

This is absolutely appalling victim blaming. Not least since so many of the reports say that women have tried to get out of the way - or gone for a bit of mutual “I’ll go this way, assume you’ll go that way, so we can both pass in this pavement” but the aggressor has changed course to ensure he hits her.

I remember during lockdowns I was running, and three men were taking up the whole width of the pavement. Social distancing meant I had to go on the road as they thought it was funny to continue to block the pavement. I just laughed at them, called them pathetic. Which they were. But so infuriating.

this has reminded me that this happened to me about 20 years ago waiting for a bus. Lots of people waiting and a jogger decided I was the one to shove- luckily towards the shelter - not the road. At the time I thought weird and why me. Why not say something like “excuse me”

Patriarchy chicken.

When out for a run I always move out of the way for walkers, as you do, and go round them, stepping off the kerb if I need to. Then one time I was out for a run with DH, single file, with him in front. The number of walkers who moved out of his way, well before he had the chance to go round them, was just astonishing.

That's why, whenever I'm walking through a busy train or tube station, I look for a big bloke to walk behind who is going in the same direction as me. I watch in awe as the crowds part to make way for them.

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Exactly that. I was totally astonished at how many people got out of DHs way (and into mine) during those lockdown walks. I was forever having to step into the road, gutter or doggy poo-laden verges, whether it was just a man or a man with kids. He didn't step out once!! And now I refuse to do it, I don't barge the other person out the way but I do stand still and wait. Teenage boys (with mates) seem to be the worst for barging into me even when I've stood still.

And I think a lot of women saw the same phenomenon as me and also thought fuck it, which is why I'm wondering if this is retaliation for us women "stepping out of our box".

I reckon it was about 20 years ago it happened to me. I was getting off a train at my home station after work and was shoved really hard by a drunk guy on the platform. Since my centre of gravity is somewhere round my ankles he didn't achieve all that much. I turned to ask him what his problem was. He responded by pulling his arm back, fist bunched, threatening to hit me. I think my (rather loud) words were along the lines of " go on, big man, hit a woman, in front of all these witnesses". He scuttled off at that point. I did have help from other passengers and the driver, but no-one could get a phone or radio signal as the station was in a deep cutting. I had had this idiot try to corner me to demand cash at a different station a while back so decided he wasn't getting away with this latest aggression. I followed at a distance, phoned the police as soon as I had signal and they sent a PC in a van. He checked I was ok and said since no injury done was I happy with him arresting the guy (who was well known to the law) and keeping him in the cells overnight. I was quite happy with this outcome although I did make it clear to the PC that this guy was a menace and could have seriously injured a woman more frail/elderly/pregnant.

@NeedMoreTinfoil we need a 'you are a superstar' emoji.

Exactly this and I was trying to get out of his way. There was a couple behind him on the other side so it would have been climb into the bushes or walk across all three of their paths. It was a female police officer I spoke to as well.