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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Every element of the current situation was planned

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colourmystic · 17/05/2025 15:39

I realised today, reading about a Japanese rape crisis centre being shut down because its chair is 'transphobic', that none of this is accidental.
Every supporting element was selected and implemented to make women more anxious, more at risk, more disempowered, more isolated, more ashamed of critical thinking, more focused on survival, and less likely to self-advocate, to report rape or abuse, less likely to hold positions of power.
The architects of current gender ideology are doubtless very satisfied with how it's going.
*I probably don't have the details of the Japanese rape crisis centre specifically accurate, it doesn't really make much difference. The end result, planned, is the same.
This has been a bit earth-shattering for me. I was told years ago that the foundations were laid ages ago in the Yogyakarta Principles, and I thought the teller was being a bit wild. They were absolutely correct, and now I'm two years behind where I should be in this work.

Fuck.

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colourmystic · 18/05/2025 10:41

endofthelinefinally · 18/05/2025 10:32

Wasn't there something about the Obamas and the Pritzkers that meant that the Democrats were completely on board with this movement right at the start? And the Beaumont society in the UK? More knowledgeable people than me should be able to add info.

I think that when we get to trying to pinpoint specific individuals, we're going to encounter so much misinformation and supposition that we're just going to get lost, and it probably doesn't even matter.
Mainly, I think it's useful to use the paradigm of This Is All Deliberate in tackling gender identity ideology, because it changes the way we approach the problem.

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endofthelinefinally · 18/05/2025 10:45

What matters is understanding thst it has been deliberately embedded in the government, the civil service, education, NHS. Every institution and from the top to the bottom.

rebmacesrevda · 18/05/2025 10:51

Another factor is the psychology behind it. The notion of choosing your gender, and demanding the world around you changes to suit you, is fundamentally narcissistic. The TRAs are both aggressive bullies, and emotionally fragile at the same time. It's as though they've never heard the word "No" before, and live in denial of reality.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/what-happens-when-a-generation-grows-up-without/id1795722610?i=1000708607560

What Happens When a Generation Grows Up Without Reality – Jaco van Zyl (#13)

What Happens When a Generation Grows Up Without Reality – Jaco van Zyl (#13)

Podcast Episode · Beyond Gender · 15/05/2025 · 56m

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/what-happens-when-a-generation-grows-up-without/id1795722610?i=1000708607560

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/05/2025 10:56

I agree @rebmacesrevda

5MinuteArgument · 18/05/2025 11:04

Trans ideology has a lot of power as it's attached to a whole bunch of 'progressive' causes. It's part of the Omnicause, which holds sway in many if not most public institutions: BBC, NHS, Labour, Greens, universities, schools, National Trust, WI, girl guides ad infinitum.

People need to unpack this ideology, keeping the good bits and ditching the bad, and stop behaving like Mao's Red Guard.

Deafnotdumb · 18/05/2025 11:05

It's been decades in the making, aided by powerful, disingenuous men and a massive amount of misogyny (invisible women is a rage-inducing introduction to how little we matter).

I'm focused on the long game. In the short term, nail the fucking policy-makers to the wall with the Supreme Court Judgement and get them to follow it. In the long term, manage the trans group think out of schools, educate our daughters on their rights and expectations and educate our sons on minimum acceptable behaviour levels.

Porn, prostitution, social media and AI modelling data are the next horizon - we will not find safety or help in the default being the male, white gaze. And yes; it will take a truckload of time. My great-grandmother did not have the vote. My grandmother could not open a business bank account without her husband's signature. My mother could be raped by her husband without legal recourse.

We're up against thousands of years of women being treated as secondary. For a certain section of gay men who see no use for us in terms of sex or comfort, we are not thought of at all.

Treaclewell · 18/05/2025 11:33

I continue to be puzzled by Dentons. So many refer to it, the company, but no-one says why this multinational law firm got involved in the business of destroying women's rights to be treated as adult human beings, equal with men. As I have understood the world, lawyers require payment, and not peppercorn rates, to act, unless they are doing it pro bono, and I can't see that defranchising half the human race is an issue that would give them the feeling of doing good, or, that if it did for some of them, it wouldn't for all, and there would be whistleblowers. It really doesn't, for me, make sense.

endofthelinefinally · 18/05/2025 11:53

Treaclewell · 18/05/2025 11:33

I continue to be puzzled by Dentons. So many refer to it, the company, but no-one says why this multinational law firm got involved in the business of destroying women's rights to be treated as adult human beings, equal with men. As I have understood the world, lawyers require payment, and not peppercorn rates, to act, unless they are doing it pro bono, and I can't see that defranchising half the human race is an issue that would give them the feeling of doing good, or, that if it did for some of them, it wouldn't for all, and there would be whistleblowers. It really doesn't, for me, make sense.

I believe they were paid a LOT of money

endofthelinefinally · 18/05/2025 12:59

Graham Linehan has collected a lot of sources on his substack. Just google his name and Dentons document.

PinkStingray · 18/05/2025 13:03

Wetoldyousaurus · 17/05/2025 19:59

I am worried that in NZ the ‘global conspiracy’ angle to all this in the more visible GI protest groups is getting a lot of traction. There is all sorts of guff about the UN and how this was all orchestrated by them etc etc. A lot if the Covid conspiracists have moved onto this issue. Our government was text book in passing self ID unanimously through parliament in the middle of the Covid storm and women who spoke at select committees warning about the implications for our rights were laughed out of the building by some very ignorant female MPs. Now that the effects of medicalisation and men in women’s sports and changerooms are being felt, people are feeling very betrayed that the debate was never properly had - because the media shut down all the moderate voices on the GC side of this.

I think that in NZ the national obsession with sport may be the only way to get some push back.
Wellington is a woke bubble, they are in an echo chamber and can't listen to the rest of NZ, particularly when no debate is a rule

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 18/05/2025 13:16

Jennifer Bilek has written a fair amount about the medico-pharmaceutical industry role in this (and as part of that, the role of the Pritzker family):

www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/billionaire-family-pushing-synthetic-sex-identities-ssi-pritzkers

MarieDeGournay · 18/05/2025 14:23

I think Ireland is a good case study of how trans campaigning can intersect with a zeitgeist to take advantage of ignorance and unawareness, and evade proper scrutiny.

Having look in great detail at the parliamentary debates around the introduction of the gender recognition act in Ireland in 2015, I got the impression that 'transgender rights' were just lumped in with 'gay rights' in the minds of a lot of politicians - we had just voted by a significant majority (62%) in the referendum in favour of marriage equality for gay and lesbian people, and 'transgender' seemed to be 'the same sort of thing'.

Nobody argued against the GRA. No party opposed it - from the middle-of-the-road centre parties, to the 'left' [not very left in Ireland] like Labour and Sinn Féin.
At that time, right-leaning populism was still unknown in mainstream politics in Ireland.

So I think there was a lot of misplaced ill-informed good will 'Haven't we looked after the gays, why wouldn't we do the same for the transgenders - I've been told they are the most marginalised group...'

This is where a well-organised trans group called TENI - which drew on the experience of trans organisations in other countries, and had probably committed the Denton's document to memory🙄- swooped in and made themselves The Experts on all things gender.

Everyone deferred to them - legislators, educators, even the medical profession - as a trustworthy source of objective information about transgenderism. As a result, just about everything the trans campaigners wanted came into being in Ireland, and policy in areas like the law, education, healthcare, media etc were shaped by the demands of that tiny tiny section of the population.

By sticking the T on to the end of LGB - a group which the marriage equality referendum had shown to be widely accepted in Irish society - the TRAs did two things: they cloaked themselves in the mantle of the acceptance of lesbians and gays, without having to bother with the decades of struggle needed to achieve that acceptance.

By the same token, they also set back the acceptance of the LGB community by decades, because the unacceptable aspects of the trans juggernaut - unisex toilets in schools, inappropriate books in children's libraries, elimination of the word 'woman', etc - were laid at the door not of the transgender movement, but of the 'LGBT' community.

So any criticism of the trans movement can be condemned as 'a return of homophobia' because it is anti LGBT, instead of what it should be: anti T, nothing to do with LGB.

There is a small LGB✂T movement, but in a population of about 5m people, that means very small and sadly not very influential.

endofthelinefinally · 18/05/2025 15:13

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 18/05/2025 13:16

Jennifer Bilek has written a fair amount about the medico-pharmaceutical industry role in this (and as part of that, the role of the Pritzker family):

www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/billionaire-family-pushing-synthetic-sex-identities-ssi-pritzkers

That is a scary document.

colourmystic · 18/05/2025 16:03

endofthelinefinally · 18/05/2025 15:13

That is a scary document.

Well, last I checked, the original Dutch studies that 'found' that pubertal suppressants were 'safe and irreversible' was not only a piece of shit methodologically, but were also funded by a manufacturer of ... pubertal suppressants.
That's the study that idiots smugly cite all the time. I've got the debunking reference somewhere, last I checked it had been thoroughly buried.

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colourmystic · 18/05/2025 16:05

endofthelinefinally · 18/05/2025 12:59

Graham Linehan has collected a lot of sources on his substack. Just google his name and Dentons document.

Yes, used to read heaps of Linehan. Good stuff.

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DrBlackbird · 18/05/2025 21:21

5MinuteArgument · 18/05/2025 11:04

Trans ideology has a lot of power as it's attached to a whole bunch of 'progressive' causes. It's part of the Omnicause, which holds sway in many if not most public institutions: BBC, NHS, Labour, Greens, universities, schools, National Trust, WI, girl guides ad infinitum.

People need to unpack this ideology, keeping the good bits and ditching the bad, and stop behaving like Mao's Red Guard.

Agree with how completely successfully gender piggybacked on to every progressive cause going. First force teaming with LGB and the pride flag and then every possible liberal country and organisation after that.

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