LSE Law video of panel presentations: Naomi Cunningham, Akua Reindorf, Ben Cooper, Sarah Vine

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GreenUp · 16/05/2025 03:26

Just watched this video of the presentations and Q&A with Naomi Cunningham, Akua Reindorf KC, Ben Cooper KC and Sarah Vine KC.

It's really worth a watch as they deal with lots of the myths and potential challenges in the aftermath of the SC Judgment.

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Pigeon123456 · 16/05/2025 18:54

That was absolutely fascinating, thank you so much for posting (and of course to LSE and the speakers)

DragonRunor · 16/05/2025 21:22

KnottyAuty · 16/05/2025 14:17

thank you for the extra info

It’s still a WTF issue for me! They did give a bit of explanation so I had understood that for the judge the issue of fertility wasn’t closely linked to the giving of consent for the sex act - but I’d respectfully say thats not really taking into account the consequences or female POV at all. If it were consumer law it would be mis-selling. And maybe they think it’s a civil matter rather than a criminal one where she sues the father. But it’s not like buying a faulty toaster is it? You’ve got to either have a termination or care for a human for the rest of your life - I’d wildly say those consequences could be considered assault because those were forced on the woman as a consequence of that man’s lie? So I think they’ve got this wrong and it should be changed. But IANAL.

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Curious about how it would be seen in reverse ie a woman claims she’s infertile. Unprotected sex leads to a child and the father is required to make support payments for the next 18 years. I’d argue this is less serious because the woman would have both the financial and emotional penalties, plus physical ones. However, a male-biased, property-based legal system may find this less acceptable?

ETA thankyou so much for posting. It’s fab to see this subject being given the time it deserves, by people very well versed in the issues. I’d also be interested to see a panel including opposing views, but tbh, I’ve been trying to find logical, well-reasoned TRA views, and it’s been a fruitless search so far!

Also interested to see such a large audience with very clear GC views 😁

PaleBlueMoonlight · 16/05/2025 23:35

Really very good. Please LSE, could you reconvene this panel to address the positive action argument and the arguments set out in the Good Law Project's pre-action letter?

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