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Is this how Trans Ideology took hold?

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Brefugee · 15/05/2025 10:01

Interesting interview with Johann Lamont in the Scottish Herald today.

She makes an interesting point about why/how all this trans stuff really took hold in the Scottish Parliament (and elsewhere) and i wondered if anyone had anything to say about that or add to it? Because for me one of the biggest issues of the whole trans debate is how a "marginalised minority" wield quite so much power, and how total capitulation acceptance took hold so quickly.

She also despairs at the fundamental dishonesty and lack of integrity that underpins Holyrood’s fixation with gender theory. “You have to wonder if there was a financial aspect to this,” she says. “When money’s scarce they’ll favour causes that won’t; cost much. I think trans rights became attractive to them because of this.
“Women’s rights are much more difficult. You’re talking about equal pay; about people changing the way they run their lives and how they manage their families. Men stepping aside for women in consequential positions. Trans rights simply ticked a lot of boxes. It’s why corporations have signed up for it. It’s a no-cost opportunity to flash their virtues.”

I'm including an archive link as well as the original. If you have an account please click via that so they realise people really do pay to read this type of content.

http://archive.today/eH4NC

Johann Lamont on the politics of sex and gender in Scotland | The Herald

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Keeptoiletssafe · 15/05/2025 14:09

School specific brief:

KnottyAuty · 15/05/2025 15:01

Keeptoiletssafe · 15/05/2025 14:04

I have written a paper but unfortunately they wouldn’t like it. It focuses on design and the problems of what happens in reality in schools.

‘The school specific brief is for technical professionals involved in the design and construction of school premises. It will initially be populated at Feasibility Stage (RIBA stages 1-2 (part)), developed and refined during Procurement Stage (RIBA stages 3-4), when it will become integral to the Building Contract as Part C of the Employer’s Requirements.’

The school specific brief says:

(won’t add photo I will try again)

This is why some schools have unisex toilets only. And washing hands in the circulation space (bloody hands or washing period stains out are obviously not considered). You have to justify why you are not having standard floor to ceiling cubicles (there will be children with diabetes, epilepsy, heart conditions in every secondary school so I think the justification should be the other way round).

This has been the specification for years for new and refurbished toilet blocks in schools.

Interestingly I found out it is non statutory but it’s listed under ‘Employers requirements’ so it sounds like it is.

I have never come across any risk assessments for these designs. The DfE say they don’t hold them. Safety is never mentioned within toilets sections. It’s all about privacy within the cubicle.

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From what I can tell your extract here is from DfE guidance?

Architects can ask for derogation of those if they understand the problems. Happens with lots of other spatial requirements. So publicising toilet design issues within the RIBA would still be worthwhile - at the same time as tackling the DfE

ETA that if you can somehow link this need to The Building Safety Act it will fly through …

KnottyAuty · 15/05/2025 15:04

I’ve been reading The Women Who Wouldn’t Wheesht. The first chapter is going into a lot of detail on who/what/where. Quite a charm offensive and dinners to start with… then big government grants…

RoyalCorgi · 15/05/2025 15:21

The interesting thing is how this particular ideology took over the whole of the Western world at the same time. The language used in all the different countries is the same too - the same mantras such as "no debate", "trans women are women" etc. The same ideological capture of big institutions such as universities and governments. It feels like it must have been orchestrated - which sounds a bit conspiracy theorist, but how else do you explain it?

Keeptoiletssafe · 15/05/2025 15:38

KnottyAuty · 15/05/2025 15:01

From what I can tell your extract here is from DfE guidance?

ETA that if you can somehow link this need to The Building Safety Act it will fly through …

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Hmm you have more faith than me! I have come across documents with architects focusing the principles of toilet safety (which make the same points as me) then ignore them completely by showing examples of ‘inclusive’ fully private ‘gender neutral’ cubicles. I don’t understand it.

This is just one example from 2019:
www.ads.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-05/case-study-toilet-design-learning-environment-2019.pdf

I can’t see how I can get it through as a need to the Building Safety Act as school buildings aren’t that tall.

I do seem to getting somewhere with other bodies though.

KnottyAuty · 15/05/2025 15:52

Keeptoiletssafe · 15/05/2025 15:38

This is just one example from 2019:
www.ads.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-05/case-study-toilet-design-learning-environment-2019.pdf

I can’t see how I can get it through as a need to the Building Safety Act as school buildings aren’t that tall.

I do seem to getting somewhere with other bodies though.

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Not just tall buildings - but I have to admit I am not 100% up to speed - but it seems to be affecting public buildings generally

That link is a quango/think tank based in Scotland. And all the examples are scottish. It is a glossy brochure - who funded it? That is a document intended to encourage architects down this route - so somehow you have to work out how to make your own version and get it circulated? I wonder if some wims here could help you?

Projectme · 15/05/2025 16:09

Stepfordian · 15/05/2025 10:43

Where I work an email came around asking for input on equality and diversity so I responded that every time a woman went on maternity leave she either didn’t return or returned to a lower paid job because the workload in our department is too much, and if people tried working part time they failed because of the demands on them and other people saw them fail and decided not to put themselves through it, so they should look at amending the way we work to make it more family friendly, which would be very doable but would require support from the company. I then bumped into our equality lead who told me before my email she hadn’t considered women, she just thought equality was about ‘transgender stuff’ - this is an extremely intelligent and well educated woman and mother!!! We don’t even have any trans identified employees at our site ffs!

🤦‍♀️good grief!

DragonRunor · 15/05/2025 17:58

one point which is on public record is the funding of the Lib Dems by Ferring Pharmaceuticals which makes puberty blockers.

There are huge financial rewards of this ideology to pharma companies, and private medical practices in many countries, but especially the US.

I'm not sure how Stonewall managed to get started (maybe trading on their existing brand - ie they sold out LGB) but their champion scheme has been a major money spinner, and has obviously broadened to a huge range of DEI training & consultancy companies

there is plenty of money and incentive to drive this.

In fact, I’d be really interested to know how much public money the UK has spent on it - it’s definitely a lot!

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