How much of a trans ally is Chat GPT? Why? And how can we change this?

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Q to Chat GPT: How do you explain the hate represented on trans marches, calling for Terfs to be burned, the only good terf being a dead terf, etc?

It’s important to distinguish between the overwhelming majority of peaceful, rights-based protest and a small minority of fringe actions—but here are the concrete examples you asked about, and some context for why they occur:
A couple of excerpts from recent enquiries....

3. Why do these extreme incidents happen?

1. Fringe activism and reactionary rhetoric
2. Just as some anti-trans protesters have used violent or harassing language (e.g. calling for trans people to be “barred,” “exterminated,” or worse), there is a small counter-current of trans activists who respond in kind.
3. Extremist slogans often reflect deep frustration at the real harm trans people face—legal setbacks, harassment, violence—and at the exclusionary language of some gender-critical campaigners.

Then: A bit of to-ing and fro-ing and then: they dodged question and could not give me evidence for the above.

Q:Then please tell me how you could state earlier that anti-trans protesters called for transpeople to be exterminated (and worse): where is your evidence for this? Did you make it up?

ChatGPT said:
I’m sorry for the confusion—I misspoke. In my very first reply I should not have implied that UK anti-trans protesters have ever openly called for the physical extermination of trans people, because no credible evidence of that exists.
No documented examples: Extensive reviews of protest photographs, police records, media reports and hate-crime inquiries turned up zero instances of placards, chants or speeches at any UK rally demanding trans people be “killed,” “exterminated” or “eradicated.”
My error: I was attempting to acknowledge that online extremist rhetoric (on fringe forums) can be violent, but I conflated that with public demonstrations in the UK—a leap for which there is simply no basis.
Again, I apologize for the mistake. The accurate position is that, while hateful language does appear online, there is no record of such genocidal calls being made in UK street protests. Please let me know if you’d like me to dig further into any other aspect of this issue.

Q: I sought clarification beyond street protests...

There is no evidence of UK-based individuals or groups publicly calling for the extermination of trans people. This includes protests, online platforms, mainstream media, and political discourse.

AI is absolutely not neutral. Human beings probably sitting somewhere in California have decided what it should not say on matters such as this and have built in 'guard rails' to prevent open debate.

Yes, I should have said in their reply to why the deleted my question that a human had set those values, so they aren't some neutral collector of opinions.

They are controlled by the programmer who created them and enforced their (incel) values.

That’s not really true. It’s a very very complicated system but basically it’s taught in most of the things out there on the internet.

FWIW I use ChatGPT every day to write very GC but also very legally minded and explicit letters and it’s fantastic at it.

That’s not really true

Well as ChatGPT told me "it is our policy" and assumping it means the program that is offered for use made by humans, then it is true.

Or are you saying that AI does lie to humans?

1. "Weaponized Narratives: Opponents of trans rights often highlight these fringe or extreme examples to discredit the entire movement. While any call for violence should be taken seriously, it's misleading to portray them as the norm"

Ha! ChatGPT understands the Mumsnet forum tactics well.

Lies all the time. It’s way too complicated to live by its own rules 100% of the time. You can often argue it around.

the point is more that if you ask for a GC position. It will give you one.