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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How to use email signature to push back against "preferred pronouns"?

64 replies

Albless · 29/04/2025 15:37

I'm a member of the clergy and I've noticed other clergy and admin staff increasingly have pronouns in brackets after their names in email signatures. The woman who manages my denomination's EDI team also has a clicky link explaining why the pronouns are there. The link takes you to a page of vagueness and mealy-mouthed nonsense.

I'd like to include an alternative in my own signature. So far I've just gone with a couple of lines saying that some in this denomination have pronouns in their signature, but I prefer Woman: adult human female. This seems a bit clunky though, and lacking in information for those for whom this is somehow new.

Any ideas on wording, and also an easy to understand webpage pushing back against pronouns which also gives people the chance to access more information.

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SaulHudsonDavidJones · 29/04/2025 21:54

I feel saying nothing is saying a lot. Leave it blank and show you won’t engage in this nonsense. Treat it like it doesn’t exist and that will help normalise it not being there.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 29/04/2025 21:59

Everyone in my workplace other than me has pronouns in their signature. Never had a conversation about it - I just don't do it.

HePlayin · 29/04/2025 22:04

I’ve ignored the pronoun requests since our company requested we add them to our email since 2016.

I’ve just ignored every request and not done it. One of my AGMs has ignored it too.

I’ll wait to see what their next approach is. In the meantime I’m just not adding them. There is a transgender person in my team and they’ve never asked me why not. I’m so far just keeping quiet.

PerkyBlinder · 29/04/2025 22:14

It’s particularly alienating for clergy to put pronouns in their signature. Given your identity as a Christian is in Christ and it’s a life where you strive to live a life like Jesus being selfless and serving others. It signals to me a belief system above God and I would leave a church if the clergy had pronouns.

Interestingly the church with the biggest growth in younger people is the Catholic Church - I really don’t think it’s a good idea for the CofE church to embrace a different belief system to God created man and woman and he saw that his creation was good.

For yours I’d just leave them off but I’d have to engage in some way with the people who had them as I think it’s that bad in the church as it’s so counter to the teachings. We should love everyone where they’re at and humans are not perfect but the clergy should also lead by example and pronouns doesn’t do that. :(

SwordOfOmens · 29/04/2025 22:17

"I don't feel comfortable being forced to choose a gender."

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/04/2025 22:21

Just don’t use pronouns in your email signature, there’s no need to turn it into a soapbox

minnienono · 29/04/2025 22:22

I wouldn’t put any pronouns in a clergy email signature, just encourages the anti women lot. I have a female boss (clergy) and refer as revered xxxx (surname) to be professional unless I know the person calling because some people ask can they speak to a man instead!

UtterlyOtterly · 29/04/2025 22:24

Someone I know, who is known for not suffering fools, uses "XX chromosomes" when she feels the need.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/04/2025 22:25

Nomoreidea · 29/04/2025 21:45

You don't need to make it clear that you're female though, if your name is more unisex. They don't need to know.

Well no she obviously doesn’t have to, but if @DuchessofReality had a unisex name but wanted to make it clear she was a woman, then writing (Ms) after her name would be the way to do it. I don’t like it much because the styling comes from the days where women were expected to clarify their marital status, but if you fear being mistaken for a bloke, it does the job.

Hamabeed · 29/04/2025 22:31

When the pronouns on email signature thing first came in a few years ago at my workplace (an incredibly captured charity) my brilliant boss at the time said she wouldn’t be putting hers up and she would take her chances being misgendered.

Hollyhedge · 29/04/2025 22:33

Just ignore their pronouns, It’s getting petty

PrettyParrot · 29/04/2025 22:37

I wrote 'No preferred pronouns' in the DEI box at my workplace. People get strangely perturbed when I assure them that I have no preference 😂

SuziQuinto · 29/04/2025 22:44

I have refused, and leave it blank. I think it's utterly ridiculous. I keep getting "reminded", and everyone else seems to have done so, but I won't.
I was tempted to write "hag/crone"

VivaDixie · 29/04/2025 22:46

Hamabeed · 29/04/2025 22:31

When the pronouns on email signature thing first came in a few years ago at my workplace (an incredibly captured charity) my brilliant boss at the time said she wouldn’t be putting hers up and she would take her chances being misgendered.

I love this and may use it when needed:

'I will take my chances being misgendered' 🤣

shrinkingthiswinter · 29/04/2025 22:50

Yeah, some idiocy is best ignored. This issue is looking more and more toxic by the day as trans activists show more of themselves. The pronoun people will gradually give over.

Pinkrabbitt · 29/04/2025 22:56

I agree that email signatures are not the place to put political statements.

Also not the place to put any protected characteristics. You don't see people writing:

Sarah Jones
African heritage
Lesbian
Dodgy knee

JumpingPumpkin · 30/04/2025 08:00

Agree that simply not having them is a statement in itself. If anyone asks then explain that you believe they are sex based and not preferred or requested.

That perfect as a role model for others.

LittleBitofBread · 30/04/2025 08:12

I would go for a Shakespearean 'gracious silence' on pronouns.

user101101 · 30/04/2025 08:13

People are tired enough with political statements coming left, right and centre, I would just leave them refreshingly blank.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/04/2025 08:15

DuchessofReality · 29/04/2025 19:56

In your place the most I would put it is to put (Mr) or (Ms) or whatever your title is if it makes it clear what sex you are. Rev Dr (which you might be?) clearly wouldn't help though.

Question to everyone else - if I put Sam Jones (Ms) then I hope it shows that although my name could be used by either sex, I am female but don't want to join in this she/her nonsense. Do you agree?

If on the other hand my name was Felicity Smith or Kevin Black, I don't think it would work so well as the name makes it obvious and in that case the title may be seen as exactly the same as the virtue signalling she/her.

She doesn’t need to make her sex clear in an email signature. It’s one of the reasons feminists object to pronouns statements - reduces the chance of stereotypes kicking in before someone has even met you. Having an unsexed title too is good!

Phunkychicken · 30/04/2025 08:18

Can you just put 'Child of God' or if really pushed 'Daughter of God', surely that's a more important identity and one I'm planning on using when work makes them mandatory

Greenartywitch · 30/04/2025 08:51

You are making your own statement by not adding pronouns already.

Peacepleaselouise · 30/04/2025 08:59

I agree. Dignified silence is much better. You aren’t subject to the same employment rules as an office holder but just purely for pastoral reasons I wouldn’t put a big long link. I’m gender critical but I want those I work with going through gender distress to not be alienated by me. In my experience people are more likely to think you have a valid point once they realise you genuinely and actually care about them.

BlondiePortz · 30/04/2025 09:14

Just don't do it you can't be forced too so just dont