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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jolyon Maugham’s Glorious Failures

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CrocsNotDocs · 26/04/2025 00:59

Enjoy.

www.spiked-online.com/2025/04/25/the-glorious-failures-of-jolyon-maugham/

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ApocalipstickNow · 26/04/2025 20:04

CriticalCondition · 26/04/2025 18:54

For some reason this squalid scenario brings to mind that excruciating scene in Withnail and I* where a drunken Withnail provides the police with an uncontaminated urine sample. It involves a Fairy Liquid bottle and a tube sellotaped to his old chap. It does not end well.

*Best Film Ever

As an aside, I use the expression “unadulterated child’s piss” far more than I would have ever thought because of that.

Kindersurprising · 26/04/2025 20:29

Darkgreendarkbark · 26/04/2025 19:29

It's a particularly kind of ivory tower mentality too, missing the wood for the trees. The idea that, in the event of a naked man advancing towards the ladies showers with his erect cock out, what naturally follows is a patient academic debate about the Equality Act.

Yes, they embroil themselves in the finer detail to the extent that they regularly miss the overall picture. They’re so used to rationalising via technicalities and caveats that context, common sense, and direction is routinely lost on them. I’ve seen this in the flesh time and time again.

JanesLittleGirl · 26/04/2025 22:31

I can't remember the name of the movie but I can remember "stupid is as stupid does."

ApocalipstickNow · 26/04/2025 22:40

Forrest Gump.

JanesLittleGirl · 26/04/2025 22:52

ApocalipstickNow · 26/04/2025 22:40

Forrest Gump.

Thank you. I knew I wasn't making it up.

Kindersurprising · 28/04/2025 09:50

Can anyone verify if this is accurate? He really needs reporting to the Bar Council - I will put in a report and would be grateful for anyone else who is good with this kind of thing to do the same, if it is an authentic tweet. I’ve only seen the screenshot.

How he gets away with this lack of professionalism and bullying behaviour is beyond me, it’s high time he was investigated.

Jolyon Maugham’s Glorious Failures
Darkgreendarkbark · 28/04/2025 09:57

Oh wow. So Jolyon's next crusade is... To start using the ladies' loos. Wow. I guess if he puts his wife's kimono on, we might never guess.

TheClogLady · 28/04/2025 10:02

Perhaps we could utilise Jolly’s Culturally Appropriated Dressing Gown to cover up any Wandering Wang Waving Sex Pests while we all wait for the cops to arrive?

Kindersurprising · 28/04/2025 10:06

Sorry to ask again but does anyone have X and can check its authenticity please? I want to make the report today if possible! But I can’t see as I don’t have X.

spannasaurus · 28/04/2025 10:06

Kindersurprising · 28/04/2025 09:50

Can anyone verify if this is accurate? He really needs reporting to the Bar Council - I will put in a report and would be grateful for anyone else who is good with this kind of thing to do the same, if it is an authentic tweet. I’ve only seen the screenshot.

How he gets away with this lack of professionalism and bullying behaviour is beyond me, it’s high time he was investigated.

He's no longer registered as a barrister with the Bar Council

Kindersurprising · 28/04/2025 10:09

spannasaurus · 28/04/2025 10:06

He's no longer registered as a barrister with the Bar Council

Oh good grief, really? Off to look up why..

Merrymouse · 28/04/2025 10:10

Darkgreendarkbark · 28/04/2025 09:57

Oh wow. So Jolyon's next crusade is... To start using the ladies' loos. Wow. I guess if he puts his wife's kimono on, we might never guess.

It's just such an obviously bad idea.

Those masked male SJWs who used to just harass feminist meetings now have JM's permission to harass any women in the toilets in Croydon M&S.

Cue front pages headline in the Daily Mail, and condemnation from cabinet ministers.

I'm starting to wonder whether he really cares about trans people.

Merrymouse · 28/04/2025 10:10

spannasaurus · 28/04/2025 10:06

He's no longer registered as a barrister with the Bar Council

Does that mean he is no longer a KC, or does he keep that as an honorary designation?

Kindersurprising · 28/04/2025 10:13

Merrymouse · 28/04/2025 10:10

It's just such an obviously bad idea.

Those masked male SJWs who used to just harass feminist meetings now have JM's permission to harass any women in the toilets in Croydon M&S.

Cue front pages headline in the Daily Mail, and condemnation from cabinet ministers.

I'm starting to wonder whether he really cares about trans people.

Of course he doesn’t. This is all misogyny; as his actions confirm. He is seething with rage toward women and their ‘disobedience’, so naturally his suggestion is to punish and intimidate women rather than do anything to validate the trans ‘argument’

TheHereticalOne · 28/04/2025 10:13

BottleBlondeMachiavelli · 26/04/2025 18:00

He must have some mental agility. He’s a KC. You don’t pass the bar on a YTS scheme. It must be the arrogance that stymies original thought.

I would suggest that legal professionals are, let's say, not immune to fallacious reasoning or category errors.

Lawyers are also trained to make the best arguments on behalf of their client. They have to think they are properly arguable but they are used to picking a side, with a desired outcome in mind, and doing their absolute best to get there within the bounds of the law. It's different training to, say, the ideal scientific training which is to stand neutral, observe the facts as they present themselves and reach the best conclusions based on that evidence, no matter where it takes you.

Added to that, professionals (infusing but not limited to lawyers!) - who are likely to be very used to being thought of by others and themselves as really quite clever - may well find it harder to make serious allowance for the possibly that they have made fundamental mistakes in their reasoning over they have committed to a path. Hence the arrogance, as you say!

Darkgreendarkbark · 28/04/2025 10:19

I just can't imagine how he thinks this is going to play out.

Woman in loos: "Er, excuse me, this is the ladies'"
Jolyon: "Aha! My point exactly. I am Jolyon Maugham, defender of trans rights. I will only leave if you say a trans woman can come in!"
Woman: "What do you mean? Is there someone outside who needs the loo?"
Jolyon: "No, but what if there was?"
Woman: "Can you just leave?"
Jolyon: "Not until you say trans women are women!"

Security guard: "What's going on here?"
Jolyon: "Aha! Allow me to introduce myself. Jolyon Maugham, defender of trans rights".

Jolyon on Twitter: "Happy Boxing Day peeps! This morning I've already been thrown out of three women's toilets. The revolution beckons!"

Merrymouse · 28/04/2025 10:27

TheHereticalOne · 28/04/2025 10:13

I would suggest that legal professionals are, let's say, not immune to fallacious reasoning or category errors.

Lawyers are also trained to make the best arguments on behalf of their client. They have to think they are properly arguable but they are used to picking a side, with a desired outcome in mind, and doing their absolute best to get there within the bounds of the law. It's different training to, say, the ideal scientific training which is to stand neutral, observe the facts as they present themselves and reach the best conclusions based on that evidence, no matter where it takes you.

Added to that, professionals (infusing but not limited to lawyers!) - who are likely to be very used to being thought of by others and themselves as really quite clever - may well find it harder to make serious allowance for the possibly that they have made fundamental mistakes in their reasoning over they have committed to a path. Hence the arrogance, as you say!

So a profession where confirmation bias is rewarded?

DrudgeJedd · 28/04/2025 10:33

I'm guessing the deleted messages on this thread are about his motivation for the unhinged torching of his reputation?
If so then this'll probably get deleted too but here goes.
Maugham has three daughters and two of them currently identify as trans boys. He has bought puberty blockers and testosterone for at least one of them.
So yes, he may also be a raging misogynist but the realisation that he's fucked up massively as a parent is the main reason for his latest meltdown.
He actually looks unwell in his recent photo in his bluesky profile.

Kindersurprising · 28/04/2025 10:53

DrudgeJedd · 28/04/2025 10:33

I'm guessing the deleted messages on this thread are about his motivation for the unhinged torching of his reputation?
If so then this'll probably get deleted too but here goes.
Maugham has three daughters and two of them currently identify as trans boys. He has bought puberty blockers and testosterone for at least one of them.
So yes, he may also be a raging misogynist but the realisation that he's fucked up massively as a parent is the main reason for his latest meltdown.
He actually looks unwell in his recent photo in his bluesky profile.

Does he really? How do you know this? I always suspected there was a more personal angle going on. I agree he looks more and more unhinged and unwell as the months go on.

spannasaurus · 28/04/2025 10:56

Merrymouse · 28/04/2025 10:10

Does that mean he is no longer a KC, or does he keep that as an honorary designation?

It seems that you can continue to use KC as long as it's made clear that you are no longer practising

DrUptonsGardenGnome · 28/04/2025 11:01

I keep seeing this claim about two of his children but can only see evidence for one (the eldest). That said, no 2 has probably seen all the attention being trans gets from daddy and doesn’t want to miss out.

DrudgeJedd · 28/04/2025 11:05

Kindersurprising · 28/04/2025 10:53

Does he really? How do you know this? I always suspected there was a more personal angle going on. I agree he looks more and more unhinged and unwell as the months go on.

His eldest is part of an activist group called Trans kids deserve better, they post SM of themselves at protests including climbing up government buildings last summer. They also give press interviews using pseudonyms but it's obvious to anyone who knows them irl who they are

‘I’ve had to become my own doctor’: trans young people on life after the Cass review

With puberty blockers now banned in much of the UK, those hoping for gender treatment say they have been forced into difficult decisions

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/aug/15/ive-had-to-become-my-own-doctor-trans-young-people-on-life-after-the-cass-review

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/04/2025 11:12

Those children are the child equivalent of those MRA groups who scale buildings dressed as Superman or whatever.

Merrymouse · 28/04/2025 11:13

SionnachRuadh · 26/04/2025 19:43

I now actually want to hear Jolyon's take on the Wi Spa incident, since part of the flasher's defence was "I wasn't actually erect, it's just that these silly women thought I was because they were so impressed by my enormous cock."

How would a KC with an unblemished record put the case for the defence?

And why are women not better off in the country where a flasher (whether claiming to be a trans woman or claiming to be trans man), can be asked to leave because he is a man?

TheHereticalOne · 28/04/2025 11:13

Merrymouse · 28/04/2025 10:27

So a profession where confirmation bias is rewarded?

Yes that's probably fair comment. I mean, they do have professional obligations not to mislead the court etc. which are extremely serious but, yes, it's an adversarial system and their job is to find and promote the best arguments/ course of action for their client, not to adjudicate the dispute in an even-handed way themselves (unless they become judges!)

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