If your organisation is defying the Supreme Court…

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…and you want to whistleblow, post here on mumsnet or you can contact James Esses.

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His post on X says this

I’m hearing increasing reports of organisations, private and public, seeking to undermine the Supreme Court judgment.

If your place of work is continuing to deny biological reality and you want to anonymously blow the whistle, please get in touch.

x.com/jamesesses/status/1915306058018427023?s=46

@Echobelly ‘My understanding is that the SC judgement does not demand that trans women be kept out of single sex space.’

If it is a single sex space, men and women (however they identify) would not be kept out of a space corresponding to their biological sex.

Are you sure? Or is that just something you want to be true?

(BTW of course trans women have rights - all the human rights they already had as men, plus the protected characteristic of gender reassignment)

I don’t think so?
As I understand it, in order for an event/group/service to be classified as ‘women only’ it must have employed the use of the single sex exemptions in the EA.
If single sex exemption is used, this has now been clarified as meaning only biological women.

If trans women are then admitted, it is no longer single sex, and they would be at risk of litigation from women who can say they right to single sex space has been denied when promised, and I think men too actually, who could say they are being unfairly discriminated against if special geeky men are admitted and not them.

happy to be corrected with the details, but pretty sure this is the gist.

BOV has both gender-neutral toilets and separate male and female ones. If all the trans folx of whatever flavour stick to the gender-neutral ones, then that would be fine. But I suspect some might deliberately choose to use the supposedly single-sex ones just to make a point.

Trans women are defined as male with regards to the equality act and can use the male single sex space or a third space if provided.

Conversely trans men are female and can use the female sex only space or a third space if provided. There is also an exception for if a trans man has transitioned with hormones and/or surgery to a point where they pass as male then they may use male spaces.

Misrepresenting the ruling isn't going to make it go away.

Transwomen do have rights, but not the right to enter female single sex spaces or take a role reserved for women eg a seat on a State Board.

A transwoman can't be fired just for being trans, or just for being a woman, if their employer believes that they're a woman and that's the basis of the discrimination.

Lots of women on MN have been clarifying this for the last week, and the objections of trans activists are based on fighting against these new restrictions, which makes this line seem like deliberate spreading of misinformation.

If organisers want to hold an event open to women and transwomen, they will have to open the event to men and women.

Yep.

I have been pondering this, it seems to me, and happy to be corrected, that if a place is advertised as being single sex then only people of that sex can use it but how many places actually state this nowadays? Is the standard pic of a stick woman enough? My workplace doesn’t have any sort of policy on this that I can tell. Some of our offices have fully enclosed multi use facilities most just have the man or woman sign on the outside then cubicles. (Just the pictures not words)
my worry is that places will get round this by just not having a policy
I could be wrong

Give over 🙄

Sex as a category has existed since the beginning of time. Everyone knew the difference because otherwise we’d have died out before humanity even started. Gender identity as a concept has not. It was only coined in the 60s but didn’t fall into active use outside of academia until the last couple of decades. For pretty much the entire population, sex and gender have always been interchangeable. “Gender” as a term only cropped up because we were too prudish to say “sex”. They weren’t recognised as distinct concepts. Then in academic circles “gender” became the term for the stereotypes pushed onto people because of their sex but outside of feminist theory the rest of the population still used until extremely recently, and outside of the internet, frankly still use, “gender” to mean “sex”.

When people have a “gender reveal” they sure as hell aren’t thinking “hmmm I wonder what my baby will identify as” but funnily enough, they’ve just learnt their baby’s sex. Go figure.

"My workplace doesn’t have any sort of policy on this that I can tell."

The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 control this.

The regulations say that toilets can be either single sex and/or where each toilet is in a fully enclosed room for use by both sexes (sometimes called a "Superloo").

So it was certainly possible to just have individual mixed-sex toilets in self-enclosed separate rooms, the "superloo".
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However, the law has now changed. The Building Regulations 2010 has had a new amendment (called "Part T"). What this says is that for any new buildings, or buildings undergoing work that requires Building Regs approval then there must be separate male and female toilets.

If a trans identifying man were to use the female toilets in your workplace and a complaint was made then, if the company did not stop that man from using the women's toilets, then they could be open to prosecution or a discrimination claim.

That’s really helpful thank you

The DfE were also mentioning 1974 regulations to me.

This is document T. I have had clarification from the Health and Safety Executive that single sex toilets can have floor to door gaps. Universal (even if they are ambulant) can not.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/toilet-accommodation-approved-document-t

James has posted this on X from a whistleblower at the British Red Cross

x.com/jamesesses/status/1915720021709312215?s=46

Following for if I need it when my place of work draft their policies.

This will be useful for anyone who is challenging work policies https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centre/news/ehrc-statement-examples-incorrect-single-sex-spaces-and-gender-self

Knowing mumsnet, I imagine there will be a separate thread on this statement already

Of course there’s a thread already!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5322711-interim-guidance-from-ehrc-is-out

Also, Anya Palmer is suggesting people raise a grievance if workplaces are issuing trans-supportive memos (with no regard for the PC of sex)

https://x.com/anyabike/status/1915699394583597349?s=46

Bristol Old Vic ‘We will only ever intervene if people are behaving inappropriately in our spaces’.

I’ve heard this before from TRAs. I remember Layla Moran, the lib dem MP, when asked about preventively safeguarding women, giving a little laugh and saying we don’t need that as we can prosecute people who attack women.

This is one of the most disgusting effects of Gender Ideology. That it has led people to a place where they actually believe the right thing to do is to let women be put at threat from a man, or even an attack, and that’s ok as they can just try to mop up the situation afterwards. The rank open disregard of women is repellant.

TreesOfGreen99 · 24/04/2025 18:25

Bristol Old Vic Theatre FB statement

Do they mean that they will support TIM going into the women's toilet? If it's designated women's, then they will definitely be in breach of the law, but it seems that if they designate it as women's and transw, they won't be.

Either way, their performative statement says to me that they will put transw first and foremost, the Devil take the high road.

How insane is it that the organisation whose purpose is to have a sound understanding of biology can't grasp that you can't change biological sex?

They cannot designate a toilet for women & male transexuals as that excludes males who are not undergoing gender reassignment. Toilets etc can be either single biological sex or mixed sex.

Who is James Esses?

You can Google him.

If posters are encouraging others to share examples of organisations’ practices with a specific individual it’s helpful to provide information about who they are and their purpose.

Particularly if the suggested forum is X, which many of us prefer to avoid.

I see that Mr Esses seems to be a gender critical activist who was expelled from a course of study for his views.