@PriOn1 @DuesToTheDirt
I noticed your comments on the Supreme Court thread that has now filled up regarding the reactions of your respective church ministers in relation to yesterday's judgment.
I'm not a regular churchgoer but consider myself CofE and had my children baptised last year. I am genuinely fascinated by the way the gender debate seems to be playing out in the Church.
My friend who posted on Facebook yesterday expressing shock and disappointment about the judgment is a vicar. My friend's spouse, who is trans, is also a vicar. They live and work in a town which is famous for being very LGBTQ friendly and they are so overtly political and partisan about trans issues that I imagine their church to be completely unwelcoming of anyone who doesn't share their political beliefs about trans people. I find it very odd that they are clearly more accepting of people who don't believe in God than they are of people who don't believe TWAW.
My friend and I also have a mutual friend who is very senior in the Church of England. This person is connected to both of us on Facebook. Whilst this person is fairly discreet, they are also very politically engaged and will generally not shy away from making their opinions known, albeit in a very measured and diplomatic way.
This person will no doubt be well aware of the judgment and will also have seen my friend's response to it. However, they have made absolutely no comment about it whatsoever. Crickets. They have not made any posts of their own or liked or otherwise reacted to any of our friend's posts. Once upon a time I would have expected them to react in some small way to such posts if they agreed with them, but it is possible that now they feel they occupy too senior a position to show bias on such a contentious matter and will not publicly react to such things whether they agree with them or not.
This person is hugely influential in the Church of England. I would absolutely love to know what they think, but feel it would be inappropriate to ask. (Even though we are on "discussing political views" terms.)
If I had to hazard a guess I would say that they agree with the judgment and understand that the sometimes conflicting needs of different groups need to be fairly balanced.
Anyway, this is a bit niche but I wanted to respond to both your points and would be interested in an ongoing discussion about the role of the Church in all this.