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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jolyon Maugham Gets It Wrong Again

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Arran2024 · 16/04/2025 13:45

Hilarious addition to today's happy news about the legal definition of 'woman'.

https://x.com/Gillian_Philip/status/1912480491405443123

https://x.com/Gillian_Philip/status/1912480491405443123

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DrudgeJedd · 17/04/2025 19:07

PP asking how this trans mania affects his professional status need to know that justifying the irreversible harm he has inflicted on his children is his full-time job now. He has no choice but to go down with the ship, the other GLP stuff about VIP lanes and shitty rivers keeps his GLP bandwagon rolling, but displacing his guilt on to Wes Streeting is his life now.

JanesLittleGirl · 17/04/2025 21:31

My heart bleeds purple piss for the man. He chose the hill that he would die on and he has died on that hill.

WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 17/04/2025 22:34

This is too funny https://x.com/scynic1/status/1912973936729403516?s=46

WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 17/04/2025 22:37

I see someone has already posted it!

fromorbit · 18/04/2025 06:35

peakadulting · 17/04/2025 16:18

I'm finally reading the actual judgment and have just reached para 13, where a 2018 Good Law Project case is cited. Just 😁

I used to donate to GLP, as I was very much with them on Brexit and democracy. Once they started with the extremism and homophobia, I cancelled my DD and started a regular donation to Sex Matters.

I have been carrying guilt about my careless GLP donations, but I feel ok now, as I was donating in 2018. So I have triply contributed to this case, through donations to GLD, SM and FWS.😂

Didn't know that. For those interested here is the section:

13. The presumption that a word has the same meaning throughout the Act when used more than once in the same statute is consistent with this principle: see Bennion, Bailey and Norbury on Statutory Interpretation, 8th ed (2020) para 21.3. That presumption is based on the idea that the drafters of the statute were seeking to create a coherent statutory text. The weight to be given to the presumption depends upon the context in which the word or phrase appears in the instrument: Assange v Swedish Prosecution Authority [2012] UKSC 22; [2012] 2 AC 471, Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers PSC at para 75.

The presumption may be stronger where a word is defined in the Act. In R (Good Law Project) v Electoral Commission [2018] EWHC 2414 (Admin), Leggatt LJ stated (para 33):

“It is generally reasonable to assume that language has been used consistently by the legislature so that the same phrase when used in different places in a statute will bear the same meaning on each occasion – all the more so where the phrase has been expressly defined.”

The GLP once argued the consistent language in law actually means something in one of the cases where GLP actually won . Oooppps didn't think about the implications for gender. Once again Agent Joylon helps the gender realists.

I know we keep saying this. However lets say it again. Thanks Joylon! We would have won in the end whatever happened, but it might have taken many more years without him. It is special that this case was helped not only by JM's idiocy, but by GLP actually making good legal points back in the past.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/04/2025 06:46

Interesting that my post above was deleted. I wonder why, and who reported it.

ErrolTheDragon · 18/04/2025 06:53

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/04/2025 06:46

Interesting that my post above was deleted. I wonder why, and who reported it.

MNHQ may tell you if you contact them (eg by reporting this post of yours) and ask which guideline you broke.

I don’t doubt we still have ‘monitors’.

MelOfTheRoses · 18/04/2025 14:52

https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1913175554813030458

He hasn't researched phalloplasty very well 😳

https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1913175554813030458

SionnachRuadh · 18/04/2025 15:05

I mean Jolyon has fathered children, you'd think he knows what a penis is...

lcakethereforeIam · 18/04/2025 15:42

MelOfTheRoses · 18/04/2025 14:52

https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1913175554813030458

He hasn't researched phalloplasty very well 😳

If the ruling had gone the other way the erect man would have claimed to be a woman and called them terfy bigots.

Also, would any 'cis' man go to the trouble of getting cosmetic mastectomy scars? And the massive leg, belly or arm scar left when a surgeon harvested the flesh to construct an unconvincing fake penis.

Peony1897 · 20/04/2025 00:38

He incorrectly interpreted the ruling which is insane for a barrister. He said ‘only TW who pass will be protected by this ruling..’ which of course they won’t be as they’re still men, and the law now states women are biological females. He’s indescribably awful, self important and a raging misogynist. Ive worked with men just like him and they’re far far far worse than even your typical right wing knuckle dragging sexist.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/04/2025 01:48

He’s probably referring to discrimination by perception, ie the mistaken perception that a man is a female person which can only obviously happen to a “passing” person. It’s quite telling that he doesn’t mention all the other ways that people who identify as the opposite sex are legally protected from discrimination and harassment.

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