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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trump statement on gender.

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lechiffre55 · 10/11/2024 22:06

Trump's statement on gender/trasgender.
3 min 43 seconds so not long.
There's a whole bunch of speeches on different topics. If you want to see other topics link top left "BACK TO VIDEOS" Three pages of video links.
You will disagree with what he says in some of the videos.
I am told all these videos were made before he won.

www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/president-trumps-plan-to-protect-children-from-left-wing-gender-insanity

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Ingenieur · 11/11/2024 09:57

LilyBartsHatShop · 11/11/2024 08:51

The US airforce has bombed South American cocaine plantations in the past. I think as part of Regan's War On Drugs in the 80s.
It does interest me that Trump in no way positons gender distressed young people as freaks, or makes any appeals to bringing back the days when boys were boys and girls were girls, or some such.
Maybe because it's a scripted speech to camera. But he's never been afraid of saying whatever insane thing occurs to him, like injecting bleach, or illegal immigrants eating your pets, or whatever.
This is so measured and straight down the line, a wish list of what I want to see for gender distressed children and young people in my own country.

Yes, it really is straight down the middle. It is aimed squarely at the perpetrators and facilitators of the ideology, not its vulnerable victims. And with some very clear outcomes for a video made a year ago.

Hoardasurass · 11/11/2024 10:42

Christinapple · 10/11/2024 22:55

Other countries have tried full-scale wars on illegal drug suppliers. All it does is result in overcrowded prisons and deaths while doing absolutely nothing to prevent people who want to get hold of these drugs doing so.

Scotland often tops the drug OD deaths per 100k in Europe, whilst countries like Portugal who have decriminalised all drugs are all at the bottom.

Criminalisation doesn't work.

Nor does decriminalisation just look at San Francisco and parts or Toronto

SquirrelSoShiny · 11/11/2024 17:38

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/11/2024 00:41

I agree with @Christinapple

Talk about a stopped clock and all that!

I thought the same! 😂

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 18:43

illinivich · 11/11/2024 08:24

Portugal used to have a low rate of drug related deaths, but not anymore.

Aye, a 'war on drugs' doesn't work but that doesn't necessarily mean that decriminalisation does, either.

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 18:49

Trump may well be a convicted sex criminal.

He hasn't actively encouraged the sterilisation of children, the placing of rapists in womens jails, and women being punched in the face as an Olympic sport.

As far as devil and the deep blue sea goes, I suppose people look at the risk of being sexually assaulted by Trump as low and the risk of thousands of children being sterilised as worse.

SpidersAreShitheads · 11/11/2024 19:27

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2024 18:49

Trump may well be a convicted sex criminal.

He hasn't actively encouraged the sterilisation of children, the placing of rapists in womens jails, and women being punched in the face as an Olympic sport.

As far as devil and the deep blue sea goes, I suppose people look at the risk of being sexually assaulted by Trump as low and the risk of thousands of children being sterilised as worse.

I know, it’s absolutely this. You’re completely right.

I think Trump will harm women and women’s rights in a myriad of other ways, both blatant and subtle, direct and indirect. He will embolden the misogynists and incels while ignoring states taking away women’s healthcare rights. And there’s all of the other issues with corruption that will undoubtedly affect women disproportionately.

But I get it. All of those things are for four years. Hold your nose and get through it - there’s nothing there that can’t be steadily undone.

Conversely, the gender laws and erosion of women’s safety, the mutilation of children - another four years of that is four more years of permanent damage, and of entrenching gender ideology in society that will make it virtually impossible to undo. That was a much bigger risk for many, with more tangible, everyday harm.

So I do understand. I’m just utterly utterly dismayed that a man like Trump can hold a position of power. And I wouldn’t normally say that about another party, even if I am deeply opposed to their views. Trump is on another level though - he tried to undermine democracy and continues to do so.

It says a lot when such a truly reprehensible individual is still better than the alternative.

It was a terrible choice voters were faced with at this election. I just hope the changes re gender ideology are pushed through and not just hot air. Fingers crossed.

biscuitandcake · 11/11/2024 19:43

The rise in drug deaths in America is also due to the fact that fentanyl is such an absolute arse of a drug and often mixed with/sold as other drugs so people don't even know that's what they are taking. It's so potent and it takes such a ridiculously tiny amount to overdose on. I suspect any war on drug gangs could end up going the way it went with Duterte in the Philippines (police executions and human rights abuses. Also the police just took over the drug trade). But I can see why people would vote for him if they were desperate for someone to improve the situation and he was saying he would.

TempestTost · 11/11/2024 19:57

biscuitandcake · 11/11/2024 19:43

The rise in drug deaths in America is also due to the fact that fentanyl is such an absolute arse of a drug and often mixed with/sold as other drugs so people don't even know that's what they are taking. It's so potent and it takes such a ridiculously tiny amount to overdose on. I suspect any war on drug gangs could end up going the way it went with Duterte in the Philippines (police executions and human rights abuses. Also the police just took over the drug trade). But I can see why people would vote for him if they were desperate for someone to improve the situation and he was saying he would.

I think that's true as far as it goes, but it doesn't account for the results we see in places that have tried decriminalization and harm reduction approaches.

I think part of the issue is that to certain people, that feels like the kind response. Give addicts a place to shoot up. Give them safe drugs. Understand that they commit petty crime due to addiction and it's not really their fault. Make sure we have drugs like Narcan in public places like libraries.

And sometimes that does work out for some individuals, you get people saved from overdose. And that is presented as people "saved" by harm reduction strategies.

But it ignores the second order affects on the community, and also on the way people who are addicts, or at risk of becoming addicts, see their own addiction, and the effects of that.

There was a prominent safe supply activist in Canada not long ago who made it his mission to supply safe drugs to addicts. He does of an overdose himself. The problem is, addiction will kill large numbers of people eventually, it's almost a kind of slow suicide, and making it appear safer tends to obscure that fact.

Addicts are great at hiding from reality, it's when it hits them in the guts that they can sometimes make a real change.

Plus - it does affect others. I used to live in a neighborhood where an injection site went in. It absolutely affected people there, who were themselves mainly low income people without a lot of political voice.

Haroldwilson · 11/11/2024 20:06

Fucking hell. No one should be celebrating this. Even if you think trans stuff for kids should be rolled back, that's what should happen - rolling back not sudden stop.

And this paragraph is some serious handmaids tale stuff. No woman with an ounce of self worth would applaud anything trump says or does:

As part of our new credentialing body for teachers, we will promote positive education about the nuclear family, the roles of mothers and fathers, and celebrating rather than erasing the things that make men and women different and unique.

You know what that means? No trans treatment and women get back in the kitchen where you belong.

SilverChampagne · 11/11/2024 22:06

Haroldwilson · 11/11/2024 20:06

Fucking hell. No one should be celebrating this. Even if you think trans stuff for kids should be rolled back, that's what should happen - rolling back not sudden stop.

And this paragraph is some serious handmaids tale stuff. No woman with an ounce of self worth would applaud anything trump says or does:

As part of our new credentialing body for teachers, we will promote positive education about the nuclear family, the roles of mothers and fathers, and celebrating rather than erasing the things that make men and women different and unique.

You know what that means? No trans treatment and women get back in the kitchen where you belong.

Define “trans treatment”?

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