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Female barristers rebel against crackdown on ‘unfashionable views’ amid trans tensions

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IwantToRetire · 16/09/2024 18:06

Female barristers are rebelling against what they believe is a crackdown on lawyers with “unfashionable views” amid growing tensions over transgender issues.

The Legal Feminist, a forum to discuss feminist issues in the legal system, is preparing to fight back against proposals from the industry regulator which could see barristers punished if they fail to act in a way which “advances equality, diversity, and inclusion”.

Barrister Naomi Cunningham, who specialises in discrimination, said she fears the vagueness of a new proposal from the Bar Standards Board (BSB) paves the way for “arbitrary enforcement” meaning barristers with “unpopular or unfashionable views” get excluded.

The BSB, which regulates the profession, is consulting on the plans which if enforced could leave barristers who breach the rules facing penalties such as fines, suspensions or a ban.

Start of a much longer article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/09/14/female-barristers-rebel-crackdown-views-trans-tensions/

Can only also be read at https://archive.is/WrWWa

(I dont think this is new as an issue, but maybe the consultation process is new - but still worth highlighting that even in groups made up of those paid to uphold the law, social pressure is being put before upholding women's rights.)

Female barristers rebel against crackdown on ‘unfashionable views’ amid trans tensions

Under the proposals, barristers would be punished if they do not act in a way that ‘advances equality, diversity, and inclusion’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/09/14/female-barristers-rebel-crackdown-views-trans-tensions

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Grammarnut · 13/12/2024 09:31

NitroNine · 16/09/2024 18:16

We all know that woolly nonsense like this doesn’t serve groups who face actual barriers - literal barriers, in the case of wheelchair users - but absolutely does get used by [overwhelmingly white, middle class] males to bludgeon women into silence/submission. How the hell is the BSB looking at all the evidence & thinking “yes, time we had some of that”?! 🤦‍♀️

They are mainly white, middle-class men? Not that I have noticed non-white middle-class men are any different.

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 13/12/2024 09:47

proposals from the industry regulator which could see barristers punished if they fail to act in a way which “advances equality, diversity, and inclusion”.

Whenever I see things like this I think "Ah, but who gets to define what 'equality, diversity and inclusion' means and looks like.

If inclusion means excluding women, as it so often does these days, that's not good for women. If diversity is mostly about women not being allowed to say 'no' to men any more then 'diversity'= oppression of women.

It's quite easy to redefine words such that the patriarchal status quo is maintained.

RethinkingLife · 13/12/2024 11:03

AlisonDonut · 13/12/2024 07:23

Taking EDI into the main aim of barristering, does this mean white men with means have to one by one resign until some sort of population level matching equilibrium is achieved. If so, who is going first?

Was it the Fawcett Society that found itself in the position of (implicitly?) agreeing that if 50% of the HoL were TW and 50% men, then that would meet the 50-50 split of sex equality?

Cailleach1 · 13/12/2024 19:25

RethinkingLife · 13/12/2024 11:03

Was it the Fawcett Society that found itself in the position of (implicitly?) agreeing that if 50% of the HoL were TW and 50% men, then that would meet the 50-50 split of sex equality?

Even if those men using the moniker ‘TW’ only inherited their places because they are male, and uncategorically not female in any shape or form. Because real women and girls are discriminated because of their sex.

RethinkingLife · 13/12/2024 19:53

Cailleach1 · 13/12/2024 19:25

Even if those men using the moniker ‘TW’ only inherited their places because they are male, and uncategorically not female in any shape or form. Because real women and girls are discriminated because of their sex.

I was thinking about the HoL but meant HoC/Parliament. 🙂

Fawcett Society statement on the GRA
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3398226-Fawcett-Society-statement-on-the-GRA?reply=81895672&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Cailleach1 · 13/12/2024 22:01

I presume their position of men being women if they say so still stands. I presume their professed belief of identity literally transforming someone’s biology doesn’t only apply to an elected MP. Imagine the cognitive dissonance they exhibit by regarding a ‘TW’ hereditary Lord as a woman if the lord said he was a woman. Even if that ‘woman’ inherited his title over six older sisters. Because real women are not entitled to the title.

Craftymam · 13/12/2024 22:05

Honestly I have no idea what is going on at the moment. It’s terrifying.

You have Kemi saying maternity has gone too far.
Nigel farage wanting to open discussion on abortion rights
And labour don’t know what a woman is

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