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Violent Serial Rapist Announces Gender Transition Behind Bars, Complains He Has Not Been Given “Gender Affirming” Care

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SamW98 · 29/05/2024 01:36

https://reduxx.info/scotland-violent-serial-rapist-announces-gender-transition-behind-bars-complains-he-has-not-been-given-gender-affirming-care/

And yet another violent rapist suddenly declares himself as woman whilst in prison in Scotland and this one complaining he’s not getting gender affirming care.

Anyone else playing the worlds smallest Violin for this creature?

SCOTLAND: Violent Serial Rapist Announces Gender Transition Behind Bars, Complains He Has Not Been Given "Gender Affirming" Care - Reduxx

A serial rapist and attempted murderer has begun identifying as a “woman” while in prison, where he says he has been denied “gender affirming” care by corrections officials. David Smith is serving an order of lifelong restriction after being convicted...

https://reduxx.info/scotland-violent-serial-rapist-announces-gender-transition-behind-bars-complains-he-has-not-been-given-gender-affirming-care/

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SammyScrounge · 31/05/2024 02:13

Rightsraptor · 29/05/2024 09:02

Who exactly is in charge in prisons? While I'm totally on board with decent accommodation, training and education etc for prisoners, they should not be able to dictate to the authorities how things are to be done.

But Scotland. Again.

Wait till Starmer gets in. You'll go the same as Scotland. Crank ideology rules

Speedweed · 31/05/2024 07:18

That's such a weird complaint - 'gender affirming care' would comprise 'puberty blockers' to suppress his male hormones, and then presumably he'd take female hormones.

But the drugs which are quaintly called 'puberty blockers' if you're trans, are known as 'chemical castration' if you're a sex offender. So is he saying he should have been chemically castrated? Because of course he should be receiving that treatment.

Elieza · 31/05/2024 08:29

Bring in the chemical castration for sure.

Him and people like him are the ones that need it the most. Hell I'd pay a crowdfund ton find it for rapists.

WandsOut · 31/05/2024 08:43

Can we get news like this out on the main boards? We need to stop letting them confine us to the cupboard.

ArabellaScott · 31/05/2024 09:00

SammyScrounge · 31/05/2024 02:13

Wait till Starmer gets in. You'll go the same as Scotland. Crank ideology rules

Once Labour are in power, it will be easier for this man to obtain a GRC.

While the SPS claim that a man with a GRC can still be excluded from women's prisons, I remain sceptical. They've managed so far to continue to prioritise men over women - the consideration has always been for the man's feelings; women's feelings have been punished.

ArabellaScott · 31/05/2024 09:02

For example:

'Smith is currently begin held in MP Barlinnie prison, a men’s facility, and prison officials have been adamant that there is no possibility Smith will be moved to a female facility. This is the result of a 2023 revision to the prison guidelines in the UK which barred male prisoners with intact male genitalia or a conviction relating to sexual offenses from being housed in the female prison estate.'

No such thing as 'UK prison guidelines'. Scottish guidelines are different from those in E&W.

New transgender prisoner policy comes into force

Transgender women with male genitalia will no longer be able to be held in mainstream women’s prisons, under new measures coming into force today.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-transgender-prisoner-policy-comes-into-force

Faffertea · 31/05/2024 09:05

Maybe I’ve been reading about this too long but given he has an indefinite sentence I wonder if he’s playing a long game. Identify as woman, get surgery, present self as reformed character whose rage was all gender dysphoria, try and get released and if not get moved to female estate because he can’t hurt any women if he doesn’t have a penis, right?

I also think while he is undoubtedly an abhorrent man he does make a valid point. If the Scottish prisons policy is to offer men who identify as women these things then on what basis are they denying him what the policy says he is entitled to?

I’d like to think it would trigger some thought and action on revoking the policy but, y’know, Scotland.

ArabellaScott · 31/05/2024 09:11

https://www.sps.gov.uk/about-us/our-latest-news/policy-management-transgender-people-custody

'Where SPS has insufficient information about an individual who is arriving into custody, they will be admitted in accordance with their sex at birth. SPS also retains the ability to admit and accommodate individuals with a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) in accordance with their sex at birth, if it is considered necessary to support people’s safety and wellbeing.
Only when staff have enough information to reach a decision that a trans individual can be safely accommodated will they be placed in an establishment which matches their affirmed gender.
The policy also takes an individualised approach to searching, which allows for individuals to be searched by officers of their affirmed gender or their sex assigned at birth, if it is necessary to keep the individual or staff safe.'

Link to the policy (pdf):

https://www.sps.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-02/SPS_Policy_for_the_Management_of_Transgender_People_in_Custody.pdf

Scottish Prison Service logo.

Policy for the Management of Transgender People in Custody | Scottish Prison Service

https://www.sps.gov.uk/about-us/our-latest-news/policy-management-transgender-people-custody

ArabellaScott · 31/05/2024 09:14

Actually this is useful:

ANNEX 1: Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) criteria

A transgender woman will not be eligible to be considered for admission or transfer to a women’s prison, where they are: convicted, or have previously been convicted, remanded for examination or trial, remanded following conviction but awaiting sentence for, or found to have committed, any of the offences detailed below, or are/have been subject to any of the orders detailed below, where the victim was female. A transgender woman who meets these criteria will not be transferred to a women’s prison unless the Risk Management Team, and subsequently the Executive Panel, are satisfied there is compelling evidence that they do not present an unacceptable risk of harm to those in the women's prison.

A transgender man who meets the above criteria but is admitted to the female estate can be managed under rule 95(1) conditions until his initial Transgender Case Conference, if it is deemed necessary and proportionate to keep women in custody safe. That means they may be kept separate from any other person in prison until SPS has been able to assess their risk and vulnerability.

Offences:

• Any offences that perpetrate violence against a female that results in physical,
sexual, or psychological harm or suffering to a female, which includes but are not limited to:
o Murder
o Culpable homicide
o Assault
o Robbery
o Abduction
o Threatening personal violence
o Rape
o Sexual harassment, bullying and intimidation in any public or private space,
including work
o Commercial sexual exploitation of women and girls including trafficking of
women and girls for that purpose. Commercial sexual exploitation includes
prostitution, lap dancing, stripping and pornography.
o Breach of the peace

• Any other offences which are listed in Schedule 3 of the Sexual Offences Act
2003.
• Any offence that is aggravated as described in section 1(1)(a) of the Abusive
Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Act 2016.
• Any offence under section 1(1) of the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018.

• An offence under section 7(1) or 17(1) of the Domestic Abuse (Protection)
(Scotland) Act 2021 which involved violence against a female that results in
physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to that female, which includes
stalking; and
• Any offences where the governor of the prison the transgender person is
admitted to or detained in considers the circumstances of their offence would
pose a risk of harm to females.
Orders.
• A non-harassment order imposed under section 234A of the Criminal Procedure
(Scotland) Act 1995 or section 8 or 8A of the Protection from Harassment Act
1997;
• A Risk of Sexual Harm Order (RoSHO) or an interim RoSHO) imposed under the
Protection of Children and Prevention of Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2005;
• A sexual offences prevention order (SOPO) made under sections 104 or 105 of
the Sexual Offences Act 2003;
• A sexual harm prevention order made under sections 11 or 12 of the Abusive
Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Act 2016, which are due to replace
SOPOs;
• Sexual Risk Orders (SROs) imposed under provisions of the Abusive Behaviour
and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Act 2016, which are due to replace RoSHOs;
• A domestic abuse protection order imposed under section 8 of the Domestic
Abuse (Protection) (Scotland) Act 2021 (or an interim domestic abuse protection
order under section 10 of that Act); and
• Another other relevant orders SPS are made aware which would include orders
for civil damages awarded to rape or other sexual assault/assault victims

Sloejelly · 31/05/2024 09:14

Why wouldn’t long term prisoners claim to be trans? It gives them power, control, interest, access to resources, possible move to a women’s prison….

ArabellaScott · 31/05/2024 09:15

It's a start.

What I would say, however, is that the consideration is women's safety and completely disregards the effect on their mental health of being incarcerated with a male, which may have effects whatever he has been convicted of.

Again, it centres the male's history and completely disregards women's history/response.

ArabellaScott · 31/05/2024 09:17

Also, Flowers for Ashleigh. I'm so glad she survived.

334bu · 31/05/2024 09:24

A former women's prison governor has contributed an essay to the just issued book "Women Won't Wheesht" where she details just how difficult it is to hold a male prisoner in a female prison. Unfortunately The Scottish Prison Service has been a particular target of the Trans Activist movement, as they saw it as the spearhead for removing all single sex services in Scotland. It should also be pointed out that one of the original SP representatives on the committee drawing up the original guidelines, was later sent to prison after conviction on child pornography charges.

CorvusPurpureus · 31/05/2024 09:37

Apparently he chased his pregnant victim around the flat with a pair of garden shears, causing her to jump out of a window, sustaining horrific injuries, to escape being murdered.

If he wants gender reassignment surgery, I reckon it's time to give him his shears back & let him sort himself out.

I mean...not really. But ffs.

IfMichaelMosleysVoiceWasWrittenasMusicalScore · 31/05/2024 09:54

QueenBitch666 · 31/05/2024 01:30

2 bricks to the bollocks should do the trick

Too easy. One brick. Slowly.

ArcaneWireless · 31/05/2024 09:58

Potato peeler.

Slower.

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lcakethereforeIam · 31/05/2024 10:01

Garlic crusher?

334bu · 31/05/2024 10:06

Sorry got the title of the book with the prison governor's essay wrong
"The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht!"

NPET · 14/10/2024 23:42

I'll turn him into a woman - sort-of.

Thevelvelletes · 15/10/2024 00:19

Awe diddums poor wee thing a dress and lipstick won't make it a woman.
Still a rapist.

OuterSpaceCadet · 15/10/2024 09:44

Wtf I'm getting horrible images of violence where the ads are. Is it just me? Two so far. Woman with bruised cut face. "This was not supposed to be public" and "now we know the rumours are true".

Actually feeling quite sick and unsettled after second image. Is this targeted?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 15/10/2024 09:47

Fuck this. A violent, woman raping, dangerous male wants extra privileges. No, he missed that boat.

ILikeDungs · 15/10/2024 10:25

OuterSpaceCadet · 15/10/2024 09:44

Wtf I'm getting horrible images of violence where the ads are. Is it just me? Two so far. Woman with bruised cut face. "This was not supposed to be public" and "now we know the rumours are true".

Actually feeling quite sick and unsettled after second image. Is this targeted?

I'm getting that too- horrible!

Went to site stuff to report, lots of others are complaining

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