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Following Cass, it's time for a Public Inquiry

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2fallsfromSSA · 16/04/2024 21:43

Following the publication of Cass, surely it is now time for a public inquiry into current systemic child safeguarding failures in the whole of the UK?

SSA have today written to Rishi Sunk calling for a Public Inquiry into regulatory capture in the education sector and safeguarding failures in schools. You can see a copy of our letter here: x.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1780311849902248091

Our position is that whilst the review is welcome it must be the beginning of accountability, not the end. If you agree then please write to your own MPs - there is a template letter here: https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/resources-2/letter-templates/

Letter templates for parents Safe Schools Alliance UK

Letter templates to help parents and carers raise concerns with schools and other organisations. Including successful letters from supporters.

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/resources-2/letter-templates/

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Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 22/04/2024 00:42

lonelywater · 21/04/2024 23:28

if you were in any doubt about the need for an enquiry, then the rubbishing and dismissal of Cass, both personally and her report, is an object lesson in the depth and reach of capture by the Crazy gang. And this cannot be ignored as random Twitler youth when government ministers such as Patrick Harvie pile on as well (personally I wouldn't leave Harvie in charge of a market stall, let alone government ministerial position-even after checking his hard drive). This is the beginning of the end but shifting these nutters is going to be like the milk back out of a cup of coffee-difficult and lengthy.

It's absolutely shocking that she's been advised not to use public transport.

Clear evidence that women speaking the truth / their professional opinion / having an opinion can be excluded from public life at the moment. I'm sure Dr Cass can afford taxis but other women who are speaking up probably can't so this would be exclusion from public life.

ResisterRex · 22/04/2024 09:16

There are a few threads now.

IMO very important to maintain focus on what has failed which is child safeguarding. The NSPCC have statutory safeguarding powers and we know the issues there go back years. We know from Cass that children were being referred directly to specialists and bypassing the safeguarding screening, with their other issues being set aside. We know that people have been raising concerns about the NSPCC to no avail. The Charity Commission is also an important part of the jigsaw as is the Children's Commissioner.

First thread and call for an inquiry
This one

Second call for an inquiry
x.com/jamesesses/status/1782147361625547089?s=48&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Third call for an inquiry
Gay Men's Network Cass Response: Public Inquiry now. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5059708-gay-mens-network-cass-response-public-inquiry-now

Thread* NSPCC whistleblower with* call for inquiry in the OP

Senior NSPCC volunteer quits over gender ideology. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/5059780-5059780-senior-nspcc-volunteer-quits-over-gender-ideology

Quote from the article

“This month, Sir Peter Wanless, chief executive of the NSPCC, announced he was stepping down.

An NSPCC spokesman said the organisation had no formal partnership with Stonewall, but did engage with the campaign group, “to hear from communities that are often under-represented”.

“At the NSPCC, we pride ourselves on being a safe space for children and young people – whether that’s supporting them when disclosing abuse or providing a listening ear for any concerns,” he said.

“In order to fully support children, we must create a non-judgemental space that allows them to feel comfortable and protected – something which is covered within our training. Something simple, like using a child’s preferred pronouns, is one way in which a young person can feel listened to and respected.

“We would like to thank Julia for the years she spent volunteering with the charity, inevitably changing the lives of the young people she supported.”

A Charity Commission spokesman said: “In May 2023 we opened a compliance case into the NSPCC to explore its management of the Childline message boards.

“After engaging with the charity, which commissioned an independent safeguarding team to review the message boards, we were satisfied the NSPCC had implemented the recommendations from this report.

“The case was closed in September 2023.””

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 09:19

The NSPCC have statutory safeguarding powers and we know the issues there go back years

And because of this schools fall back on them time and time again for guidance. They're viewed as the good standard.

The should be held to account.

Safeguarding isn't about holding a dbs or a "reputable" title such as nspcc. It's about ongoing review, reflection, analysis and changing where issues are identified.

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 09:19

*Gold standard

ResisterRex · 22/04/2024 09:22

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 09:19

The NSPCC have statutory safeguarding powers and we know the issues there go back years

And because of this schools fall back on them time and time again for guidance. They're viewed as the good standard.

The should be held to account.

Safeguarding isn't about holding a dbs or a "reputable" title such as nspcc. It's about ongoing review, reflection, analysis and changing where issues are identified.

The NSPCC seem unwilling to reflect. The James Makings episode should have seen a serious inquiry into them. Yet it never happened. As I recall, they told people raising concerns that they were "kink shaming". How big do the red flags need to be?

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 09:56

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Following Cass, it's time for a Public Inquiry
WarriorN · 22/04/2024 10:00

Linking this piece by Helen Saxby which I think should be elevated a lot.

Where is so much gender confusion coming from?
The scope of inquiry into gender and young people should be expanded to schools

Excerpt:

Stella Creasy MP, always a public trans ally, was careful to ask for action which concentrated on making more resources available for services, to cope with the long waiting lists. But in the tweetet_ of her speech, she inadvertently exposed the real problem. She wrote “Cass report could be moment to join up services for all children questioning gender…” The phrase “questioning gender” is becoming more common, alongside variations such as “gender-confused”, partly in response to criticism over the political nature of labelling a child as “trans”, but also because of distaste around the term “gender dysphoria” with its connotations of mental ill health. But in trying to describe children in a way that avoids politics or mental health, you end up accidentally exposing the truth – that children are “questioning” or “confused”, and you must then ask where those children’s questions and confusion are coming from.*

We have been drilled into the belief that “you can’t make a child trans”, but apart from the fact that an innate state of transness is unlikely and unprovable, you can definitely make a child “confused” and you can certainly put “questions” into a child’s head which weren’t there before. Social media has been blamed for much of the rise in childhood mental health problems, but in the case of “gender” the ideas are being backed up by institutions such as schools and the BBC. Children are encouraged to believe there are hundreds of genders to choose from and that where they sit on the Barbie/GI Jo spectrum is important and a matter of personal choice. Inevitably there will be children who are confused by this and some who find the questions worrying. Many will be influenced, in unpredictable ways.

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 10:04

Also this one

www.sundaypost.com/fp/puberty-blockers-children/

Schools should be providing an ­environment that supports and facilitates children’s resilience in learning and emotional wellbeing. Parents and carers should be able to feel secure in the knowledge that, when their child attends school, they are safe, both physically and psychologically.
“Many children going through puberty do question their gender, their identity and their bodies. That’s just part of growing up. The danger comes when officials affirm those questionings and tell a child they can change gender. This is ethically and morally irresponsible as well as psychologically harmful and more likely to compound the mental health issues the child already has and reinforce the child’s self-perception that he/she really is trans.”
Her views are echoed by Mary Howden, former head of education and workforce development at the Scottish Social Services Council, who said: “Children are being socially transitioned at school without their parent’s knowledge or permission, and trans ideology is even found in nurseries and primary schools where we’ve been teaching our children they can be born in the wrong body.
“There is no child development theory that supports a child can be trans, despite the educational material given to them in Scottish schools. This material is being given to children inappropriate for their age and development, and it also leads to the breakdown of safeguarding barriers.
“There is also no child development ­theory that supports the idea of children being born in the wrong body. Gender ideology is something that has been constructed by adults.
“The Scottish Government needs to ­withdraw its transgender guidance and review school materials to ensure they are age-appropriate, as they are clearly not.”
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My daughter has autism, and because of that, she had no really close friends.
“When she started secondary school, she was attracted by the bright rainbow flags and glitter of the school’s LGBTQ Pride club where she was encouraged to join.
“She was overwhelmed by the lovebombing they used.
“She’d tell us there were lots of different genders. Her new friends told her there were. Because she’s autistic, she believed this nonsense.
“Every other day, she’d change her mind about what gender she wanted to be.
“She wouldn’t listen when it was explained she was going through puberty and questioning the changes.
Before we knew it, the secrecy started, the trawling of unsavoury internet sites, going behind our backs and getting bindings so she could tie down and hide her breasts.”
Just when the mum thought things could not get any worse, her middle daughter began demanding to be known as a boy too.
Laura said: “We were utterly blindsided by this development. She was only 11 years old, going from primary six to seven at the time.
“But after she was told at a Relationships Sexual Health and Parenthood education class that she could have been born in the wrong body, and she could be a boy if she wanted to be, everything changed for her too.”
Desperate to find help, Laura took her daughters to the controversial Sandyford gender clinic run by NHS Glasgow & Clyde.
Laura said: “They said our middle daughter could get puberty blockers. Thankfully, I did a lot of research on the lasting effects, and we cancelled return visits.”
The mum eventually reached out to Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services for help.
Laura said: “When we refused to call our daughter a boy, the CAHMS counsellor reported us to social services as ‘bad parents’ for daring to question whether socially transitioning was right thing for my autistic daughter. All the congratulations and affirmation coming from teachers and counsellors about having a ‘new gender’, it made it a million times harder for my girls to change their minds and go back to just being them.”
Laura said things became even darker when both daughters self-harmed.
She said: “Behind all the rainbow flags and unicorns there’s a sinister control going on.
“If we dare not conform with the ideology, there are ‘glitter families’ who do agree, and they will take our place.
“We’re terrified our girls will cut themselves off from us. I’ve seen it happen to other parents.”

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 10:04

Argh no paragraphs

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 10:05

Obviously the Scottish government bankrolled LGBTQ charities who then inserted themselves in to schools

Following Cass, it's time for a Public Inquiry
WarriorN · 22/04/2024 10:07

There's no small action that can take account of the enormous amount of trans marketing that has been directed at schools.

Enormous amounts.

From all sectors

FrancescaContini · 22/04/2024 17:35

51 girls in Scotland were “put forward” for double mastectomies once they reached 18? Makes this grown woman weep for their future selves.

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 17:48

Yes, it's just horrific

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 17:49

Well done and thank you @* DawnButlerBrent for correcting the Parliamentary record.*

It's concerning that this misinformation came from @* stonewalluk: "...by quoting this briefing, it seems as though I may have inadvertently misled the House"*

x.com/sexmattersorg/status/1782436268745400361?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

How many others has stonewall misled??

Public inquiry now

FrancescaContini · 22/04/2024 17:54

Well, certainly 51 young women in Scotland who think that having double mastectomies will make them into “their true selves” or whatever unscientific waffle SWall peddles to children.

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 18:03

Yes, the true extent of this horror won't be known for some time.

I do remember a fellow terven being very concerned about a young Scottish teen who was going to be taken abroad for a mastectomy during the half term holiday in Scotland a couple of years ago. Tried to find out if she could alert SS. I'm not sure what happened

FrancescaContini · 22/04/2024 18:10

Dear God. A half term trip not to the seaside or the Science Museum or to see aunty Mary but to the operating theatre.

IcakethereforeIam · 22/04/2024 19:17

Fair play to Dawn Butler. Crumbled like wet cardboard when Dr Cass gave her a talking to, but she did the right thing.

FrancescaContini · 22/04/2024 19:37

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 10:00

Linking this piece by Helen Saxby which I think should be elevated a lot.

Where is so much gender confusion coming from?
The scope of inquiry into gender and young people should be expanded to schools

Excerpt:

Stella Creasy MP, always a public trans ally, was careful to ask for action which concentrated on making more resources available for services, to cope with the long waiting lists. But in the tweetet_ of her speech, she inadvertently exposed the real problem. She wrote “Cass report could be moment to join up services for all children questioning gender…” The phrase “questioning gender” is becoming more common, alongside variations such as “gender-confused”, partly in response to criticism over the political nature of labelling a child as “trans”, but also because of distaste around the term “gender dysphoria” with its connotations of mental ill health. But in trying to describe children in a way that avoids politics or mental health, you end up accidentally exposing the truth – that children are “questioning” or “confused”, and you must then ask where those children’s questions and confusion are coming from.*

We have been drilled into the belief that “you can’t make a child trans”, but apart from the fact that an innate state of transness is unlikely and unprovable, you can definitely make a child “confused” and you can certainly put “questions” into a child’s head which weren’t there before. Social media has been blamed for much of the rise in childhood mental health problems, but in the case of “gender” the ideas are being backed up by institutions such as schools and the BBC. Children are encouraged to believe there are hundreds of genders to choose from and that where they sit on the Barbie/GI Jo spectrum is important and a matter of personal choice. Inevitably there will be children who are confused by this and some who find the questions worrying. Many will be influenced, in unpredictable ways.

Thank you for highlighting this.

Let’s not forget the role of the NHS with one hospital recently releasing a photo of smiling staff welcoming 21 genders. This isn’t helpful to children at all.

ResisterRex · 22/04/2024 20:01

Misleading Parliament is very serious. And Dawn now says she has "a lot more to say". And saying it was just a figure is downplaying it somewhat. Has she learned?

"Last week I inadvertently misled the House by quoting a figure from a Stonewall briefing.

I'm grateful for conversation with Dr Cass and am happy to correct the record because that's what politicians should do.

I have more to say watch this space !"

x.com/dawnbutlerbrent/status/1782449267853918702?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

IcakethereforeIam · 22/04/2024 20:42

I'd be willing to bet that 'anti-trans'Hmm groups weren't the people that the Police were thinking of when they advised Dr Cass not to use public transport. I'd also be willing to bet that Dr Cass hasn't had to speak to a single 'anti-trans'HmmHmm group to tell them off for misrepresenting her work.

WarriorN · 22/04/2024 21:10

Quite IcakethereforeIam, that is really very serious and I hope Cass is getting some good emotional support as well as protection from the government.

We will be watching that space very carefully Dawn, don't worry.

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