Next court case. 2 mums taking NHS England to court for providing unsafe 'treatment' for their gender questioning girls

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GARDENING NEEDED PRONTO.

2 mums, one of them called Anna Castle, going to the high court on Match 24th.
Both mums to ND, gender questioning, v likely lesbian teens. Both daughters now residing with affirming fathers. More details can nbe found on crowd justice.

I have no clue how likely they are to be successful given the hideous state of the medical profession on this topic, but i really respect them fighting for their daughters.

David Bell was very clear about the danger of this in his recent interview on the PM programme.

Thanks for the tip off. Done a little light gardening.

Thanks, I've just done a bit of gardening

Me too.

I’m reading Hannah Barnes’ book about GIDS and have just learned about the 'innovative' service they developed for children aged 16+ (who were referred and were on the waiting list and might age out of the GIDS referral criteria): GIDS sent out some questionnaires, arranged one in-person assessment (sometimes carried out as a group assessment) and then referred on to adult gender services. GIDS never provided psychotherapy (despite claiming to follow the Dutch Protocol) and saw themselves as an assessment service for referral for medical interventions.

Bumping as this important case is being heard tomorrow. Gardening needed! 🌺

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Ta for the thread bumps - it reminded me to contribute 👍

Oh I certainly hope that these women win.

I'm in the US and currently juveniles who commit crimes are sometimes said that their brains are not formed before 25 and that they should be tried as juveniles, not as adults. However, we are letting children as young as seven and eight decide to change gender and hide it from their parents. I find this frightening. We're letting children change their bodies, irreversible changes at that.

I have done some gardening.
I really, really hope they are successful.

Also bumping. Prelim hearing is today. This case is so important, there is little point in restricting the access to blockers and hormones for children when they can be shunted to the adult services when they are 17 and need no psych evaluations.

Unfortunately, the opposite is likely to be true. The NHS will hide behind the WPATH guidelines being the international consensus at the time.

However, there are other factors that could affect the outcome and, even if they don't win, they will shine light on what is happening, as Keira Bell did.

I've donated.

I'm not sure it will be successful in itself, but am hopeful it will raise awareness.

I think the issue of treatment of 16+17 year olds - as well as young adults e.g. 18-25s - is of massive importance, and feels like the next battle after the NHS dropping puberty blockers.

I just checked the Cass review FAQs and they cover everyone under 18. They say "The scope of the Review is to consider NHS models of care for children and young people, so NHS and privately provided gender services for adults – that is, those who are 18 or over – are outside our remit. However, the movement of young people from children’s services to adult services is clearly relevant in terms of the wider context of the Review’s work. Health services that support young adults with gender dysphoria or gender incongruence, including for example the pilot services operating in England, who currently see patients from the age of 17, are therefore of interest to the Review."

Good luck to those two mums.

Update 26th March 2024: Case adjourned until 23rd May 2024 - to allow time for the Cass Review and a review of adult services to be completed.

That actually sounds positive? Fingers crossed.

Will keep an eye on this and garden again if required.

Just saw this in the news. Seems sensible. Even if the NHS say "that was the guidance at the time", this case should still highlight the issue that we need to look carefully at this age group as well as children.