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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Froodwithatowel · 26/12/2023 16:07

Excellent article in Spiked.

This line though needs re writing because this is one of the lingering fig leaves to be pulled away. The primary goal of social work is child protection and adult safeguarding. To do this effectively, it must be acknowledged that there is, at times, a conflict between trans rights the wishes of a person who identifies as being trans, and women’s or children’s rights.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/12/2023 16:39

That is such a good article. The fact that Cafcass come under the MoJ umbrella is a cause for concern. It was the MoJ that gleefully promoted the "male born sex offenders in prison with women" and the CPS (also under the MoJ umbrella) which has promoted some very disturbing anti women / anti child safeguarding materials (withdrawn "guidance" for schools etc).

I bet if an enterprising journalist explored the links between these organisations, they'd find a small pool of very self invested individuals & groups zealously promoting this ideology at the young and vulnerable, all enabled by weak leadership?

RethinkingLife · 26/12/2023 16:41

Is anyone here knowledgeable as to whether the procedures and statistics are different in other countries, please? Do they have a similar number of transitioning children or is it to difficult for lack of comparable populations and needs?

I've previously read about better outcomes for children in care systems in countries where all of the carers etc. are graduates.

In UK homes, “Children were often coming in, making their own dinner and taking it up to their room to eat,” he explains. “The difference was how much time and effort was invested in getting to know the children.” Josephine Schneider’s is run by pedagogues – degree-qualified carers trained in behavioural sciences and in working with conflict.
In the UK, very few children’s home staff are graduates. In Denmark, all carers in children’s homes complete a bachelor’s degree in pedagogy, with most pursuing further training. Newly qualified pedagogues earn 26,000 Danish kroner per month pre-tax (about £3,000), and this rises after a few years to a top income bracket of 35,000 Danish kroner per month.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/20/copenhagen-childrens-home-support-uk

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/mar/23/social-pedagogy-children-care-homes

The Copenhagen house that's probably the best children's home in the world | Clare Considine and Helen Russell

In Denmark, children’s homes are places of stability, comfort and support. Now a British entrepreneur is bringing the model to the UK

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/20/copenhagen-childrens-home-support-uk

WarriorN · 26/12/2023 19:46

Julie Bindel has said that there was an incredibly high rate of young girls identifying as boys around Blackpool; it turned out the local social workers were completely captured.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/12/2023 20:00

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/12/2023 16:39

That is such a good article. The fact that Cafcass come under the MoJ umbrella is a cause for concern. It was the MoJ that gleefully promoted the "male born sex offenders in prison with women" and the CPS (also under the MoJ umbrella) which has promoted some very disturbing anti women / anti child safeguarding materials (withdrawn "guidance" for schools etc).

I bet if an enterprising journalist explored the links between these organisations, they'd find a small pool of very self invested individuals & groups zealously promoting this ideology at the young and vulnerable, all enabled by weak leadership?

Evidencing the extreme levels of trans capture at the CPS. Look at the press release from them declaring the murder of Brianna Ghey as a transphobic hate crime before the trial had started.
They deleted it but offered no apology or acknowledgement that this was wrong on their part:

https://twitter.com/LevinsLaw/status/1738054273076736380

https://twitter.com/LevinsLaw/status/1738054273076736380

Froodwithatowel · 26/12/2023 20:07

Part of the capturing process is the training that the law is wrong and the lobby is right, it is a higher power and truth. And that you are righteous when you act against the law in the name of the lobby.

The whole thing is like the mad love child of medieval Catholicism and Dungeons and Dragons.

WarriorN · 26/12/2023 21:09

Part of the capturing process is the training that the law is wrong and the lobby is right

Incoming warning regarding the schools advice; from what I've seen in my inbox and adverts in groups, many providers are gearing up to offer training on why it's not right and also pointing out that it's not statutory.

WarriorN · 28/12/2023 07:41

WarriorN · 26/12/2023 19:46

Julie Bindel has said that there was an incredibly high rate of young girls identifying as boys around Blackpool; it turned out the local social workers were completely captured.

Julie has written more about this here today:

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12905027/gender-ideology-crime-against-generation-julie-bindel.html

There needs to be a fucking public inquiry across the nhs, dfe and social services now.

Froodwithatowel · 28/12/2023 09:41

There needs to be a fucking public inquiry across the nhs, dfe and social services now.

And the police.

Although at the moment, as we saw happen with the schools advice and like I strongly suspect is happening with the Cass report, there would be a concerted rush by a lobby that still has a lot of money, powerful people in hock and influence, to control and direct it to limit the damage to their agenda and to heavily influence the messaging to come out saying what served that lobby.

It is starting to shift from total capture. Inconvenience is happening. But unfortunately it's going to take women like Badenoch and Nicholson a lot longer, with the aid of a few more PR disasters that get into the press showing women and children harmed, before we get the inquiry that throws this out.

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