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TRAs want mumsnet "out of politics", and tell Starmer to "eat shit"

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ResisterRex · 19/01/2023 15:09

There seem to have been a few choice scenes from the tantrum protest. Justine picked up on one of them:

twitter.com/justine_roberts/status/1616031361160167426?s=46&t=d4rirOTkVMDAxBI5lgrIYA

Of course, there's the charming "eat shit" message for Starmer:

twitter.com/guidofawkes/status/1616011710552330241?s=46&t=d4rirOTkVMDAxBI5lgrIYA

Perhaps a thread compiling such gems would be useful for when we're told the usual rubbish about it being "toxic on both sides".

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Changechangychange · 20/01/2023 11:21

Mollyollydolly · 19/01/2023 22:37

I would have thought you couldn't stand if you had a criminal record, never mind one like that.

I’m sure you can stand, but you are never going to be elected are you? Voters don’t think “you know who really represents my views? Convicted murderers”.

It would be a massive own goal to select her as a candidate, the opposition parties would never shut up about it.

AnyFucker · 20/01/2023 11:27

Select her ???

Changechangychange · 20/01/2023 11:32

AnyFucker · 20/01/2023 11:27

Select her ???

I thought MN deleted comments that misgendered people? They have in the past, has that changed?

AnyFucker · 20/01/2023 11:36

Use whatever pronouns you like. I refuse to call a man a woman.

ResisterRex · 20/01/2023 11:40

Having a criminal record doesn't prevent you from standing as an MP. Whether the public elects someone who's done a decent stretch for kidnapping, torture and attempted murder, however...well, hopefully not.

www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/electing-mps/candidates/

Who is disqualified from standing as an MP?
Certain groups of people are not allowed to stand, these include:
• members of the police forces
• members of the armed forces
• civil servants and judges
• people who are subject of a bankruptcy restrictions order in England or Wales or a debt relief restrictions order
• people who have been adjudged bankrupt in Northern Ireland
• people who have had their estate sequestrated in Scotland

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DarkDayforMN · 20/01/2023 11:40

I thought MN deleted comments that misgendered people? They have in the past, has that changed?

I get the impression they've eased off on that rule, but IIRC it never applied to criminals so we can call this murderous piece of shit a man all we want.

MorvenOfMalvern · 20/01/2023 11:47

DerekFaker · 20/01/2023 11:05

Lisa Mandy quote at the end of that article....wtaf

PronounssheRa · 20/01/2023 11:51

I'm not surprised about Nandy, she also thinks male rapists should be housed in the female prison estate of they self ID as a women.

MorvenOfMalvern · 20/01/2023 11:55

Hopefully that ridiculous statement about 13 yr olds will be amplified like Maggie Chapman's nonsense, so people can hear what they're dealing with.

(We already know that vulnerable female prisoners don't get the public's attention in the same way unfortunately)

SD1978 · 20/01/2023 12:00

Why does it seem that's it's always the TRA's doing the shouting, screaming and threats, and yet it's GC that's scary.......

TheClogLady · 20/01/2023 12:03

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/violent-convict-sex-change-operation-2119490?i

www.openlynews.com/i/?id=b3290b53-dfc4-4750-9062-1e4b320f6ac7

Baker was incarcerated in 1989 and announced intent to transition in 2013, but didn’t get a hormone prescription until after the testicle self harming incident in 2017.

Which means when SJB was playing board games with Dennis Nielsen, SJB was just a bog standard male-prisoner.

This ‘Britain’s longest serving trans prisoner’ thing seems like a bit of a racket when at least half of the sentence was before SJB had mention intent to transition to anyone?

Apparently SJB is in a channel 5 programme on HMP Full Sutton’s ‘Beast Wing’

www.pressreader.com/uk/inside-soap/20221122/283678303671408

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11486499/amp/Dennis-Nilsen-isolated-later-years-life-HMP-Sutton-guards-recount.html

www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/channel-5-hmp-full-sutton-7873255

The programme is available to view here:

www.channel5.com/show/hmp-full-sutton-evil-behind-bars

I wonder if Sarah is the reason Eddie Izzard has jettisoned the beret? Two beret-wearing transgender wannabe left wing MPs, what are the odds? Eddie should make a copyright claim!

TRAs want mumsnet "out of politics", and tell Starmer to "eat shit"
TRAs want mumsnet "out of politics", and tell Starmer to "eat shit"
MassiveWordSalad · 20/01/2023 13:56

Sarah Jane Baker survived thirty years in male prisons, managing to try and murder someone, plus self-testicle-removal during that time. Not really sounding like one of the 'most vulnerable' people.

The powers that be should really bear Sarah Jane in mind when they think about where to house transwomen prisoners, what a case study Hmm

DarkDayforMN · 20/01/2023 14:34

Why are TRAs "aligning with" torturers anyway? They are most certainly "platforming' him.

Could we just post a picture of this guy every time some idiot comes on here to do the guilt by association thing? He's not a random bad apple or fringe exception - he was allowed to speak at the House of Commons before.

ResisterRex · 21/01/2023 10:13

Video perhaps showing the Labour MPs were there and able to hear what was going on. It's a short clip only though and doesn't include the "eat shit" chants:

twitter.com/tottenhamconse1/status/1616599498599317505?s=46&t=lylsIVaXDKTr7AvY58gHIw

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DerekFaker · 21/01/2023 16:02

Well this is creepy. Sarah Jane Baker is following and messaging GC accounts.

TRAs want mumsnet "out of politics", and tell Starmer to "eat shit"
TRAs want mumsnet "out of politics", and tell Starmer to "eat shit"
EwwSprouts · 21/01/2023 17:14

@DarkDayforMN "He's not a random bad apple or fringe exception - he was allowed to speak at the House of Commons before."

Seriously? Invited by whom?

PronounssheRa · 21/01/2023 18:02

EwwSprouts · 21/01/2023 17:14

@DarkDayforMN "He's not a random bad apple or fringe exception - he was allowed to speak at the House of Commons before."

Seriously? Invited by whom?

Possibly confusing with Karen Jones, convicted of manslaughter and attempted rape?

Though both make the point that some exceptionally violent males are being centred by politicians.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440153/Trans-convict-invited-speak-House-Lords.html

DerekFaker · 21/01/2023 19:01

"Breaking Scandal! 3 Labour MPs shared a platform with Sarah Jane Baker, who served 30 years in prison for attempted murder & kidnap."

"Labour claim in the @DailyMailUK they didn’t hear her comments, yet our video proves they were listening with rapt attention."

twitter.com/TottenhamConse1/status/1616599498599317505?t=nEFms3Nwjvxtjlczkl7g2w&s=19

SinnerBoy · 21/01/2023 19:20

MargaritaPie · Yesterday 01:52

"A top Scottish lawyer has been fined after sending "foolish" tweets in that threatened a transgender councillor with gang violence."

Well, good. It's nice to see that you are finally in agreement that thousands of your fellow trans extremist zealots should be prosecuted.

nepeta · 21/01/2023 20:05

What is the picture (attached to the article) about someone lying on a bed with stocking tops showing? Does it have something to do with Baker? A part of a political campaign? I am confused.

southwarknews.co.uk/news/politics/camberwell-woman-sets-her-sights-on-becoming-uks-first-trans-gender-mp/

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 20:20

SinnerBoy · 21/01/2023 19:20

MargaritaPie · Yesterday 01:52

"A top Scottish lawyer has been fined after sending "foolish" tweets in that threatened a transgender councillor with gang violence."

Well, good. It's nice to see that you are finally in agreement that thousands of your fellow trans extremist zealots should be prosecuted.

The lawyer who made the threats was a "gender critical". The victim was transgender.

DerekFaker · 21/01/2023 20:27

nepeta · 21/01/2023 20:05

What is the picture (attached to the article) about someone lying on a bed with stocking tops showing? Does it have something to do with Baker? A part of a political campaign? I am confused.

southwarknews.co.uk/news/politics/camberwell-woman-sets-her-sights-on-becoming-uks-first-trans-gender-mp/

It is yes. They still have the beret on.

Colour me surprised that a violent TRA is also a prison abolitionist.

SinnerBoy · 22/01/2023 08:47

MargaritaPie · Yesterday 20:20

The lawyer who made the threats was a "gender critical". The victim was transgender.

Yes, I'm aware of that, having read the article. I'm sure you understood that I meant that the same standards should apply to your side, thousands of them having posted all sorts of vile threats to women.

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 22/01/2023 09:16

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 20:20

The lawyer who made the threats was a "gender critical". The victim was transgender.

Funny the things you will engage with and what you ignore.

And again all you show is your willingness to wilfully ignore things that would make your chums look bad!

But as I said earlier, thanks for your sterling public service. You have found one man who is being nasty to another extremely violent man.

ResisterRex · 22/01/2023 09:53

This is a really, really good thread by Dennis Kavanagh setting out why recent events resemble nascent terrorism:

twitter.com/jebadoo2/status/1616931012268937216?s=46&t=Y33w2yeBdzDFDImXXD48cA

"Shall we just see where we are members of the jury?

(i) A sign calling for the decapitation of "terfs" with MPs posing in front of it, they now claim to be unaware of such

(ii) A tweet calling for a car to drive into a group of women meeting to exercise freedom of speech

(ii.Cont.) Said women have now been advised of the need for private security in consequence of that threat

(iii) The author of said threat entertains what appear to be violent misogynist fantasies about killing a children's author and a sitting MP (female of course)

(iv) An SNP MP asked if intimidation of a labour MP was acceptable or if she felt any sympathy - answer "no"

(v) A Labour male MP spitting rage at another female MP to the point the speaker had to tell him to calm down

(vi) Said male MP then crossed the chamber to sit proximate to the female conservative MP in question to the point a male conservative MP was moved to sit near her as he interpreted this as an aggressive invasion of her space in a debate, ironically, about such issues

(vii) Male MP along with colleagues then attends a demo sharing a platform with a person convicted of serious violent matters.

(vii) Meanwhile lawful gatherings of women frequently attract balaclava clad persons with threatening signs

(viii) Such gatherings are occasionally marked by said persons allegedly possessing knives (Brighton) who are then arrested

(ix) The extremist ideology associated with said persons frequently posts violent memes and threats on social media particularly directed towards women

(x) Ideology also used dehumanising language such as "terfs" and, like a religion, construes any disagreement as "hate"

Member of the jury may regard the above as far beyond the embryonic indications of a a violent extremist force, my suggestion is that this is nascent terrorism. I say that because, properly analysed, there is no other description for three reasons thus:

1 - A terrorist will use or threaten violence to terrify people into compliance or frighten them out of public discourse. Their intention is to wield fear as a weapon in order to obtain silence or compliance. We have unanswerable evidence this is the case here.

2 - A terrorist operates on the belief their god/values/cause is so morally superior to any dissent it cannot be questioned and opposition must be crushed and treated as hate/heresy. That is true here you may think.

3 - A terrorist cannot accept the normal functioning of democracy, the use of proper legislation, like s.35, or public votes or free speech. They subvert normal parliamentary procedures and frighten MPs by their snarling or spitting or take to the streets threatening decapitation

In consequence, you may have little difficulty in concluding that these 10 examples are not a coincidence, they are a malign constellation, 10 things related to one truly despicable idea which must be defeated.

They are evidence of nascent terrorism."

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