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Bookbinder removes JKR from Harry Potter novels

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Waitwhat23 · 11/01/2023 20:41

This person is removing the title pages (and unsurprisingly the copyright pages) from Harry Potter novels so that author attribution is removed in order to sell on for a (considerable) profit to those who 'need to feel safe'.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11622773/Bookbinder-23-removes-JK-Rowlings-Harry-Potter-novels-amid-furore-transphobia.html

As has been pointed out elsewhere, European copyright law includes the right for attribution i..e the right to be recognised as the author of a work.

(As a note for the 'Daily Fail!!!' shriekers, this is being reported on various sources but this is by far the most detailed).

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Fenlandia · 12/01/2023 11:16

Kucinghitam · 12/01/2023 10:46

That's such a good point!

Boom!

senua · 12/01/2023 11:17

I'll be interested to see if JKR/Bloomsbury take legal action
Are you saying that Laur is breaking the law?Grin

WandaWonder · 12/01/2023 11:18

Can we remove God/Jesus's, Shakespeare, Dickens, Austen, Blyton? Not a genuine suggestion

fromorbit · 12/01/2023 11:32

Selling second hand copies of Harry Potter books is a mass market activity which has been going on for 20 years+ it doesn't damage JKR whether her name is on them or not or whatever binding they have.

Her status as She Who Cannot be Named is a powerful one. Is there a market for selling expensive rebound copies of Caitlyn Jenner's book or any Trans author? No there isn't. Because they have failed to create anything as good or as popular.

JKR has ALREADY had her royalties on those books he is selling. The fact the books exist shows how important she is an author and why her fame is going to last forever. If anything she will only get more famous with stunts like this.

The most successful Trans creators Wachowskis who made the Matrix movies are nowhere near as successful as Rowling. Though to be fair they are mutually supportive because the Wachowski's creation of the Matrix profits Warner Brothers the same studio that produced and boosts Rowling's work on film and pays her millions every year.

Meanwhile in the latest huge shrine to JKR's genius is opening in Japan this year and she will be making huge profits from it like the many other HP theme parks round the world.
www.timeout.com/tokyo/news/what-we-know-so-far-about-the-new-harry-potter-attraction-in-tokyo-opening-in-2023-032921

Fenlandia · 12/01/2023 11:38

senua · 12/01/2023 11:17

I'll be interested to see if JKR/Bloomsbury take legal action
Are you saying that Laur is breaking the law?Grin

😅(I'm not sure as Laur isn't in the UK, and they might claim it's an artwork so not the same as if Waterstone's or a Canadian bookshop did the same thing to a product whose author was guilty of wrongthink.)

dunBle · 12/01/2023 15:27

Selling second hand copies of Harry Potter books is a mass market activity which has been going on for 20 years+ it doesn't damage JKR whether her name is on them or not or whatever binding they have.

I don't think that's true. It's a while since I've moved in fandom circles, but there were definite lines that you didn't cross in terms fanart and memorabilia, and commercial profit without permission was one of them. It's harder to defend your intellectual property from big companies taking liberties with it if you let the small scale commercial breaches slide IIRC.

catandcoffee · 12/01/2023 15:35

WandaWomblesaurus · 12/01/2023 08:40

Wonder what he does with the old covers. Maybe he has them tied with a bit of cord and then he whips himself with them, giving himself paper cuts and feverishly whispering her dreaded name.

Not many things make me really laugh out loud but this did. 😁

MargaritaPie · 12/01/2023 16:09

Good.

And yes I'm not clicking on any daily fail links. I lose IQ points just reading their dribble which Microsoft has declared not credible.

www.theguardian.com/media/2019/jan/23/dont-trust-daily-mail-website-microsoft-browser-warns-users

MargaritaPie · 12/01/2023 16:12

"Wonder what he does with the old covers"

Could be good for throwing on the fire to keep warm, every little helps at a time when energy bills are high.

ArabellaScott · 12/01/2023 16:12

Thanks, Marg, but I won't click on Guardian links I'm afraid. Got another source?

MargaritaPie · 12/01/2023 16:13

First few paragraphs:

Microsoft’s internet browser is warning users not to trust the Daily Mail’s journalism as part of a feature designed to fight fake news.

Visitors to Mail Online who use Microsoft Edge can now see a statement asserting that “this website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability” and “has been forced to pay damages in numerous high-profile cases”.

The message, which is produced by a third-party startup called NewsGuard, tells readers to proceed carefully given that “the site regularly publishes content that has damaged reputations, caused widespread alarm, or constituted harassment or invasion of privacy”.

It gives Mail Online, one of the world’s biggest news websites, one out of five on credibility – the same level as the Kremlin-backed RT news service.
^^
NewsGuard is run by news industry veterans and says it is trying to establish industry-standard benchmarks for which news websites should be trusted. It employs analysts to manually check whether sites meet a series of journalistic standards, making all its judgments public and inviting outlets to respond to criticism and improve their standards to gain a higher rating.

ArabellaScott · 12/01/2023 16:14

yes, thanks, but that's from the Guardian, right?

I don't trust the Guardian, I'm afraid.

TheMarzipanDildo · 12/01/2023 16:15

MargaritaPie · 12/01/2023 16:12

"Wonder what he does with the old covers"

Could be good for throwing on the fire to keep warm, every little helps at a time when energy bills are high.

Popping alone to defend absolute plonkers as per.

£140 per book Grin

MargaritaPie · 12/01/2023 16:17

ArabellaScott · 12/01/2023 16:14

yes, thanks, but that's from the Guardian, right?

I don't trust the Guardian, I'm afraid.

Suit yourself.

reads the free Guardian while sipping the free coffee from Waitrose

Waitwhat23 · 12/01/2023 17:43

ArabellaScott · 12/01/2023 16:14

yes, thanks, but that's from the Guardian, right?

I don't trust the Guardian, I'm afraid.

That's reminded me - did the Guardian ever apologise for their appalling reporting of the Wi Spa incident or issue a report that the person in question is a convicted sex offender?

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Waitwhat23 · 12/01/2023 17:47

dunBle · 12/01/2023 15:27

Selling second hand copies of Harry Potter books is a mass market activity which has been going on for 20 years+ it doesn't damage JKR whether her name is on them or not or whatever binding they have.

I don't think that's true. It's a while since I've moved in fandom circles, but there were definite lines that you didn't cross in terms fanart and memorabilia, and commercial profit without permission was one of them. It's harder to defend your intellectual property from big companies taking liberties with it if you let the small scale commercial breaches slide IIRC.

JRK has been far more allowing of fanfic etc than other authors, with certain obvious stipulations -

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3753001.stm

Selling her books, with her name removed from her own work, for commercial profit is a line I'd be surprised she didn't address.

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NorthStarRising · 12/01/2023 18:16

It’s just cognitive dissonance to the max.
If you despise JKR, boycott her stuff. As a student, I boycotted the goods, services and banks associated with apartheid-era South Africa.
As a vegetarian, there are things I won’t eat.
Putting SA oranges in a bag labelled ‘Product of Spain’ and buying them wouldn’t have made sense to me. Crossing out gelatine as an ingredient won’t suddenly make marshmallows OK.
So hate JKR, refuse to have anything to do with her creations. But this?
Just pathetic.

SinnerBoy · 12/01/2023 18:17

ArabellaScott · Today 16:14

How about the Irish Independent?

www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/microsoft-warns-users-daily-mail-uk-site-an-unreliable-news-source-37743997.html

Microsoft is warning internet users that the 'Daily Mail' UK website is now an unreliable news source that "fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability".

Visitors to the 'Daily Mail' UK website who use Microsoft's Edge browser are now greeted with a notice that the site "regularly publishes content that has damaged reputations, caused widespread alarm, or constituted harassment or invasion of privacy".

The move is part of an effort by tech companies to cut down on access to misleading and fake news sites. Microsoft is applying the same warning to the websites of the US newspaper the 'National Enquirer' and the right-wing conspiracy website 'Infowars'.

The warning has infuriated the British tabloid, which has the third highest web traffic of any newspaper in the world.

Waitwhat23 · 12/01/2023 18:47

The Independant?

www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifestyle/harry-potter-books-jk-rowling-b2260175.html

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NitroNine · 12/01/2023 18:50

It took less than a week for for NewsGuard to reverse the decision & give the Mail a green rating (Press Gazette) so it’s safe to look now 🙄

ArabellaScott · 12/01/2023 18:50

Waitwhat23 · 12/01/2023 17:43

That's reminded me - did the Guardian ever apologise for their appalling reporting of the Wi Spa incident or issue a report that the person in question is a convicted sex offender?

Nope.

ArabellaScott · 12/01/2023 18:51

NitroNine · 12/01/2023 18:50

It took less than a week for for NewsGuard to reverse the decision & give the Mail a green rating (Press Gazette) so it’s safe to look now 🙄

My eyes are too pure, Nitro! I couldn't!

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 12/01/2023 19:11

The Guardian never released an official, proofread, statement regarding the bullying investigation at the Observer.

Odd.

NitroNine · 12/01/2023 19:17

<ponders potential of Holy Water eyedrops>

Obviously they would be a [w]hol[l]y inclusive product [range]: am thinking wee eye baths for first aid kits blessed by range of faith leaders. And maybe I could have an atheist shout at some & a humanist say some nice fluffy words at some others just so nobody gets left out?

How many will I put you down for Arabella?

MrGHardy · 12/01/2023 19:21

"(As a note for the 'Daily Fail!!!' shriekers, this is being reported on various sources but this is by far the most detailed)".

I absolutely hate this mentality. Just because they have trash articles does not mean everything they put out is bad or that everything they write is wrong or misleading. It sometimes even should make people think why other outlets aren't reporting on an issue.