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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Blackpool, CSA and 'gender identity'

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ArabellaScott · 03/01/2023 09:29

unherd.com/2023/01/blackpools-forsaken-children/

Julie Bindel on why so many young females in Blackpool are choosing to 'transition'.

'Claire*, who grew up in Blackpool, is working for a charity that supports female victims of male violence. She tells me that the links between the rise in young females being referred to gender identity clinics and the realities of growing up in places like Blackpool are obvious. She cites high levels of poverty and the normalisation of the exploitation of women and girls in the sex trade.'
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'One study, published back in 1994, looked at the issue of transsexualism and the connections with dissociation and child abuse. It found that of the 45 female to male transsexuals interviewed, more than 60% reported one or more types of severe child abuse. The sample group also disclosed symptoms and responses that are known to be typical effects of child abuse, such as fear, anxiety, depression, eating disorders, substance abuse, aggression and suicidal thoughts. The author suggests that transsexualism “may be an adaptive extreme associative survival response to severe child abuse”.'

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ArabellaScott · 04/01/2023 09:43

Ooh, so it is.

'Her landmark new book TIME TO THINK has been chosen as one of the most significant publications of 2023 by [Times and FT]'

twitter.com/tobymundy/status/1610258985856237573?cxt=HHwWioC8hYSB5dgsAAAA

swiftpress.com/book/time-to-think/

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ArabellaScott · 04/01/2023 09:44

'Time to Think goes behind the headlines to reveal the truth about the NHS’s flagship gender service for children.

The Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), based at the Tavistock and Portman Trust in North London, was set up initially to provide — for the most part — talking therapies to young people who were questioning their gender identity. But in the last decade GIDS has referred more than a thousand children, some as young as nine years old, for medication to block their puberty. In the same period, the number of young people seeking GIDS’s help exploded, increasing twenty-five-fold. The profile of the patients changed too: from largely pre-pubescent boys to mostly adolescent girls, who were often contending with other difficulties.

Why had the patients changed so dramatically? Were all these distressed young people best served by taking puberty blockers and then cross-sex hormones, which cause irreversible changes to the body? While some young people appeared to thrive after taking the blocker, many seemed to become worse. Was there enough clinical evidence to justify such profound medical interventions in the lives of young people who had so much else to contend with?

This urgent, scrupulous and dramatic book explains how, in the words of some former staff, GIDS has been the site of a serious medical scandal, in which ideological concerns took priority over clinical practice. Award-winning journalist Hannah Barnes has had unprecedented access to thousands of pages of documents, including internal emails and unpublished reports, and well over a hundred hours of personal testimony from GIDS clinicians, former service users and senoir Tavistock figures. The result is a disturbing and gripping parable for our times.

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NonnyMouse1337 · 04/01/2023 10:39

Wow that book is going to be explosive!

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 10:42

I wonder how many 'looked after' children there are in Blackpool. Iirc they one of the cohorts over represented in genderwoo. At the time my family lived there, there were lots of young people living there. Relatively cheap, if grotty, accommodation and jobs, although seasonal.
If SS in Blackpool is captured, or just one, or a few, 'woke' social workers that might be contributing.

Hoppinggreen · 04/01/2023 10:47

When DD was around 8 she belonged to a youth group and the annual trip was to Blackpool. I asked one of the other Mums if her child was going and she replied that no child of hers would ever be going to Blackpool.
She was in Safeguarding and child protection and said from what she knew about Blackpool it was basically the paedophile capital of The North and she advised me not to let DD go either
Maybe she was being a bit dramatic but I believe her

ScrollingLeaves · 04/01/2023 11:03

Thank you for that article.

It is heartbreaking to think of what has happened to these girls, and completely enraging that they have been sexually abused and exploited by the paedophiles who are being allowed to freely roam the city.

Then the fact that the symptoms of their distress are being “treated” with testosterone and breast binding instead of being truly related to finding out about what happened to them in the first place, shows this whole ‘gender identity’ ideology up for the deluded idiocy it is.

Sarahconnor1 · 04/01/2023 11:11

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 10:42

I wonder how many 'looked after' children there are in Blackpool. Iirc they one of the cohorts over represented in genderwoo. At the time my family lived there, there were lots of young people living there. Relatively cheap, if grotty, accommodation and jobs, although seasonal.
If SS in Blackpool is captured, or just one, or a few, 'woke' social workers that might be contributing.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62479564

This is a depressing read

Not only does blackpool have the highest proportion of its own children in care, it ships in looked after children from elsewhere

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 04/01/2023 11:26

I've looked at it more closely. It's about her investigation in 2007. When she moves from that to Lisa, the police officer, she does so in the present tense.

oh, that clarifies things! I wonder if she saw the statistic about GIDs referrals from Blackpool, drew the connection and spoke to her old contacts to pull it all together into an article.

I think the reason it doesn’t quite come together is, ironically, that the part of the article drawing from her earlier investigation is so compelling.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/01/2023 11:27

Gosh, I wish I could say I was surprised. It seems very lucrative. Former b&b would be easy to convert and would be unattractive as family homes in that area, unsuitable as apartments as they often lack parking, which means they're probably quite cheap to buy. Epicentres for social contagion for so many things. Lonely, damaged children ripe for exploitation. Not least by the companies setting up these 'homes'.

Boiledbeetle · 04/01/2023 17:52

One study, published back in 1994, looked at the issue of transsexualism and the connections with dissociation and child abuse. It found that of the 45 female to male transsexuals interviewed, more than 60% reported one or more types of severe child abuse. The sample group also disclosed symptoms and responses that are known to be typical effects of child abuse, such as fear, anxiety, depression, eating disorders, substance abuse, aggression and suicidal thoughts. The author suggests that transsexualism “may be an adaptive extreme associative survival response to severe child abuse”.'

this what scares me.

Non gender confirming child yes
Abused yes
Dissociative disorder yes
Substance abuse yes
Agression yes
Suicidal thoughts yes
To wish not have to live in a female body because it causes sooo many issues yes
Alienated from parents yes
Looking for affecttion where ever you can get it yes

If I was young me now you can bet I'd have been identifying as a man socially transitioned by teachers and currently on drugs and waiting to get my breasts removed along with my womb.

But That of course wasnt even a possibility in the world of my childhood so I had to do what all children did and figure out how to live with what I've got. Because it's all in ever going to have.I

It's called growing up.

Sigh

Kokeshi123 · 05/01/2023 02:30

Yes it is bizarre that so many of them are from Blackpool, a smallish town with a population of around 140k. It suggests social contagion, at least.

I think it also suggests "social worker contagion," to be honest. Blackpool is a troubled town with endless problems. I have no doubt that a huge govt bureaucracy trying to deal with said problems has grown up in the town. That's not a problem in itself, but TRA crap does seem to have gone absolutely viral among social workers and well-meaning government agencies and organizations.

WarriorN · 05/01/2023 07:41

Horrifying but important thread, thank you.

Why aren't more shouting about this? It's just horrific.

Is the tortoise podcast about GIDs? I've found a number of episodes about the Tavi. Or a different one?

WarriorN · 05/01/2023 07:42

TRA crap does seem to have gone absolutely viral among social workers and well-meaning government agencies and organizations.

I'm wondering about schools in the area and how much capture there is throughout children's services. Lgbtq quality marks etc.

IcakethereforeIam · 05/01/2023 14:07

Surprisingly (to me) the MPs for Blackpool North and Blackpool South are both Conservative. One, Paul Maynard, has cerebral palsy and is understandably interested in disabled people's access to jobs. The other Ben something, is gay. I don't know their stances on transstuff or self id.

IcakethereforeIam · 05/01/2023 14:25

The council is no overall control. From the Council's website Labour is the largest with 20, the Conservatives have 14 and there's about a dozen independents. I wonder if they have the situation where 'niche' interests get amplified because of the need to do deals to get things passed?

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2023 15:28

Sarahconnor1 · 04/01/2023 11:11

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62479564

This is a depressing read

Not only does blackpool have the highest proportion of its own children in care, it ships in looked after children from elsewhere

'Clive Grunshaw, the former Labour Lancashire Police and Crime Commissioner, warns that Blackpool was not the right place to send vulnerable young people from other parts of the country.

He says there is a "significant demand" for drugs in the town and that so-called county lines gangs from Merseyside, Manchester, even London, send operatives to sell there - using "extreme violence" to control their share of the trade.

The young people in children's homes have often already been in traumatic situations, he says. "And then you leave them unsupported in a place where there could be issues of anti-social behaviour and criminality, the last role models you'd like to see them mix with."'

This sounds horrific.

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ArabellaScott · 05/01/2023 15:31

Christ, the council are changing planning laws to try and 'stem the flow' of children being shipped in:

'Almost all the children's homes in Blackpool are run by private companies. Increasingly, such companies own and manage homes across England. Children remain the responsibility of their local authority, but the homes look after the young people day-to-day.

The fact that so many children are being moved far away from their neighbourhoods should "ring alarm bells", says Katharine Sacks-Jones, CEO of Become, the national charity for children in care and young care leavers.'

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ScrollingLeaves · 05/01/2023 15:39

This treatment of children ought to be against the law.

Sarahconnor1 · 05/01/2023 15:58

I suspect the location of the children's homes are where you can buy up cheep ex b&b properties. Those will be in the very worst areas of central Blackpool, surrounded by HMOs, brothels and dealers.

It's a scandal but has been going on for years

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/01/2023 16:44

Kokeshi123 · 05/01/2023 02:30

Yes it is bizarre that so many of them are from Blackpool, a smallish town with a population of around 140k. It suggests social contagion, at least.

I think it also suggests "social worker contagion," to be honest. Blackpool is a troubled town with endless problems. I have no doubt that a huge govt bureaucracy trying to deal with said problems has grown up in the town. That's not a problem in itself, but TRA crap does seem to have gone absolutely viral among social workers and well-meaning government agencies and organizations.

Sounds very plausible.

IcakethereforeIam · 05/01/2023 17:37

Who's the social worker who is battling their association because she questioned this?

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2023 19:47

Rachel Meade?

'I was investigated by SWE due to a complaint being made by a 'friend' and former colleague who screen shot posts I shared within my private Facebook group over a 2 year period suggesting that these were indicative of my fitness to practice as a social worker. These posts were in the context of Government consultations to proposed reforms to the Gender Recognition Act 2004. Many were from National newspapers such as The Telegraph and The Guardian as well as women's rights advocacy groups such as Fair Play for Women and Women's Place UK.'

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IcakethereforeIam · 05/01/2023 20:29

Yes, that's the one. I don't think her ordeal is over yet.

You can see how there could be a situation where the vast majority of sw are.... sane but too concerned for their jobs to speak up. Leaving a minority of.... lunatics others free to run amok, with the backing of their professional association. Feck, they probably get promotions and wind up running the shit show.

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