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Given that Global Butterflies is in the news (BBC breaching impartiality) this article about who they are and their stated mission is a MUST READ.

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DontLikeCrumpets · 17/06/2022 19:14

The following snippets are from an in-depth article in The Critic Magazine Dec 2021.I highly recommend the whole thing as the article has links to important documents.

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Rachel Reese and Emma Cusdin are “trans women” and partners — they describe themselves as lesbians. Reese founded Global Butterflies in 2015, with Cusdin joining the company several years later. Global Butterflies “has since worked with hundreds of clients worldwide”. It openly proclaims an approach that brooks no debate: “Global Butterflies helps organisations foster an inclusive culture through adopting a zero-tolerance approach to transphobic behaviour and attitudes.” The irony is not noticed?

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When the Telegraph, the Times and the Daily Mail reported last week that public sector organisations, law firms, large corporations and schools, are paying for “trans-inclusion” training from an organisation called Global Butterflies, two surprising things happened.

First, practically everyone on Twitter who comments frequently and sceptically about the ever-encroaching impact of gender ideology on our lives found they had been pre-emptively “blocked” by Global Butterflies, even though it’s an organisation most had never heard of. Second, as they looked to learn more, they discovered that Global Butterflies’ website had disappeared from public view.

These are hardly signs of an organisation willing to engage in open debate, confident that its ideas and aims will withstand public scrutiny. Like Pandora, one becomes curious. What spirits lurk behind that twitter-block? What hope for dialogue behind a disappeared website?

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It turns out that Global Butterflies aspires to change the world — but not via open debate, not by bringing people along, not by open democratic processes. Instead they aim to undermine science, change language, remove women’s single sex spaces and opportunities, and eliminate the social role of the sex binary.

In partnership with Lloyds of London in 2019, Global Butterflies has developed a document called “A guide to trans and non-binary inclusion”. This extraordinary document reveals the teeny little (only four staff) Global Butterflies is pushing for a new social order. The scale and implications of the project make the document worth reading closely.

thecritic.co.uk/the-genderbread-man-is-coming/

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OvaHere · 17/06/2022 19:28

We've had a few threads or posts on them (some may have been deleted).

They've done a very good job with capitalising on the distraction Stonewall provided by taking all the heat allowing them to go relatively unnoticed (except by Mumsnet, we notice everything)

Whilst Stonewall has focused a lot on schools, third sector etc. this org has gone for a lot of big hitters with big pockets - law firms, MoD, banks, investment groups, that sort of thing.

They used to display the logos of all their clients but I notice they are now being more coy about it.

DontLikeCrumpets · 17/06/2022 19:42

This is the first time I've heard of them. I think the article is important to post as it underlines the fact that the BBC is aware that Global Butterflies is not impartial,that it has stated interest in promoting its message. Given its stated ideology whatever training it does is not impartial. The BBC should not use organisations like this for training its journalists.

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FemaleAndLearning · 17/06/2022 20:23

Rachel came to my place of work. All the usual stuff. Rachel has been able to spend a lot of money on surgeries so called facial feminsation. I found Rachel spouted all the usual rubbish and describing themselves as lesbians was embarrassing. Non binary was added on as an after thought but my question was met with an irritated bordering aggressive answer. I think Rachel used the phrase I just want to pee at some point too. It was well attended but I'm sure most people attended from intrigue not support.

Eelicks · 17/06/2022 20:46

Ive seen the training. Talking about how they knew they were a women from stealing their mothers/sisters clothes but they werent a very good woman at first as they didnt know how to wear makeup and had to learn (clearly im a terrible woman as i dont wear markup) 😂.

All the usual sexist crap. At the end a total arse of a male employee (type to be divorced complain a lot about how much he has to pay his ex in child maintenance with a much younger gf and new sports car) started talking in ernest about all the "crazy hard-core feminists" he'd heard about who were discriminating against trans women. Cue blokey chat between the transwomen trainer and this MRA employee about the horrible mean feminists while all us hard working highly paid professional women had to sit and listen whilst silently seething.

Grim.

DontLikeCrumpets · 17/06/2022 20:54

Grim, Eelicks, sounds like an understatement.I'm seething just reading about that experience and its not the trans issue per se, it's the no debate, listen,shut up and obey that is enraging.

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mrshoho · 17/06/2022 20:58

Grim. That's me being polite. The entitlement and the demands are very hard to understand.

FemaleAndLearning · 17/06/2022 21:00

Oh and I remember that Rachel said she had to stop being a transwoman for a while as Rachel couldn't get a job but as a man a job came easy. Male privilege right there.

DontAskIDontKnow · 17/06/2022 21:01

Rachel Reese has teamed up with MyGWork to provide training at my place of work. It was mainly a lot of moaning about the uk being very transphobic. Even moaned about the guardian being transphobic. Apparently, Ben Hunte is a good journalist.

DontLikeCrumpets · 17/06/2022 21:02

Isn't it strange FemaleAndLearning that one of the most female traits of putting the needs of others before oneself is noticeably absent in people such as Rachel? What sex is traditionally viewed as aggressively putting their own self-interest ahead of others? Hmm which sex could that be?

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FemaleAndLearning · 17/06/2022 22:51

DontLikeCrumpets I know it is so obvious.

Hagiography · 17/06/2022 23:02

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2022 01:08

Oh and I remember that Rachel said she had to stop being a transwoman for a while as Rachel couldn't get a job but as a man a job came easy.

Oh that's handy for Rachel that Rachel could just do that.

mrshoho · 18/06/2022 05:29

Oh and I remember that Rachel said she had to stop being a transwoman for a while as Rachel couldn't get a job but as a man a job came easy

So gender dysphoria is real until it's not? According to their rules a person would be transphobic if they were to refer to a transwoman like Rachel as a Man. It would hurt Rachel's feelings?

derob · 18/06/2022 09:05

Quote from Rachel in this article: giveout.org/spotlight-rachel-reese

" I believe that governments disappear and change, but corporates don’t. And most of the organisations I work with are global. If you can change a company’s internal structure, then they can change the minds of government through their influence. I’m a big believer in corporate power."

Crouton19 · 18/06/2022 12:14

GB has run training for my (international city-based law) firm as well. It was online (and could have been prerecorded for all I know, we couldn’t ask questions) and I could stomach about 5 mins of the AMAB nonsense before logging off. I think I will try to watch it all another time and then contact the D&I team with all the inaccuracies.

DontLikeCrumpets · 18/06/2022 18:47

@derob "Quote from Rachel in this article: giveout.org/spotlight-rachel-reese

" I believe that governments disappear and change, but corporates don’t. And most of the organisations I work with are global. If you can change a company’s internal structure, then they can change the minds of government through their influence. I’m a big believer in corporate power.""

That is a staggering admission. Here we have it yet the Left worldwide including unions embrace the trans movement as if its some sort of grassroots movement of oppressed.

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