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Genderless clothing range - Bonds

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BadGherkin · 05/06/2021 06:43

From news.com.au - Australian News - it’s long, but ☀️

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/bonds-introduces-new-genderless-clothing-range/news-story/c7d2b4a21a23f4b08cea51c32c92e395

An article on “Genderless” clothing range by Bonds.

Bonds introduces new ‘genderless’ clothing range

Joe Hildebrand

Amid a massive news week, in which the defamation trial of the century was sensationally settled and the Victorian government resumed imprisoning its own citizens, Aussie brand Bonds decided the time was ripe to launch a “genderless” clothing line – the ultimate answer to a question nobody asked.

No doubt the company has been inundated for years by trans and gender-fluid folk baffled as to which half-price singlet they should pick from the supermarket shelf, or perhaps felt violated by the toxic masculinity of Chesty Bond’s lantern jaw.

Strangely none of my trans friends ever mentioned it to me but to be fair at least two of them are pretty busy analysing national security and doing cabaret shows – not at the same time I should add.

So what compelling surge in demand was Bonds responding to?

Apparently this: “We offer an assortment of genderless apparel options across our range so our customers can wear it their way.

“We recognise that the future is ‘genderful’ and want to allow our customers to express their gender and identity in whichever way is most comfortable.”

This statement was accompanied by pictures of male and female models earnestly sporting the same jumpers, T-shirts, hoodies and tracksuit pants in the same “neutral” shades of grey, black, teal and dark green. Apparently gender-neutral people are unable to express themselves on the more vibrant edges of the colour spectrum.

To the untrained eye these items look exactly like any other jumpers, T-shirts, hoodies and tracksuit pants people put on every day without much fanfare but their magical property, according to the website Ladbible, is that these clothes “can be worn by anyone”.

This is in stark contrast to what happens when my wife tries to put on one of my T-shirts – it immediately self-immolates and a silent alarm notifies the nearest police station.

But of course I speak in jest. Indeed, as a strong believer in both freedom of expression and the laws of physics, my understanding has always been that any piece of clothing can be worn by anyone as long as they are smaller than the piece of clothing they are trying to fit into.

It is also passing strange that in other areas Bonds is at pains to be remarkably specific when dictating what appendages can go into what bits of material.

It has a range of sports socks in which each of the pair is marked left or right (no doubt as an aid to the novice user) and the exciting new “X-Temp Trunk” with “heat responsive technology” designed to combat “sweaty balls”.

Disturbingly, this range of underpants is marketed specifically to men so they can “get reacquainted with the cool and confident guy in you” – unless that last statement is directed towards women, in which case it would take on a rather different meaning.

We can but hope the company’s archaic assumption that only men have sweaty balls is something that will soon be challenged in time.

It may also be of interest to Bonds to learn that there is already a word for items that can be used or worn by anyone of any gender, and that is “unisex”. There are unisex bathrooms, unisex clothes and unisex bicycles – in fact I once rode the latter for 700 kilometres in the Great Victorian Bike Ride of 1987.

It was only later that I found out that my mum had lied to me and it was actually a girl’s bike but you get my point. If only it had come in grey.

And so Bonds could have just released all these items of clothing and labelled them “unisex” and shoppers of casualwear the world over would have been spared the existential angst of having to reconcile a piece of cloth with whatever gender they identify as.

But of course then the company wouldn’t have had the chance to spruik its woke credentials, nor get acres of free publicity such as this column.

So why am I even writing about it? Well, here’s the answer to another question nobody asked.

The last time I recall the iconic Aussie Bonds brand making headlines for all the wrong reasons was back in 2009 when its parent company Pacific Brands sacked almost 2000 workers and sent their jobs to China. I recalled it because I wrote it.

Apparently a company that ditches Australian workers for cheap offshore labour can now curry favour with them simply by putting out a shapeless grey windcheater and calling it “genderless”.

If a company wants to cut jobs while cutting cotton that’s up to them but they should at least have enough shame not to pretend they’re a bastion of progressive politics. And if hip modern lefties fall for such baubles they have once more proven their complete disdain for the working class.

And for any company or political party that wants the support of mainstream Australia there is just one simple rule they might wish to follow: If it ain’t woke, don’t fix it.

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fireproofwitch · 05/06/2021 07:26

The comments are excellent.

RoseAndRose · 05/06/2021 07:55

Nice article.

Over here we have John Lewis, who arrange children's clothes by garment type and brands such as Contra, which have some items differently cut but essentially the same items for all.

It's not innovation, it's marketing, and they think it will sell. Not everyone is the target market

Crouton19 · 05/06/2021 08:18

This is great in a ‘let clothes be clothes’ sense and as the writer points out, women have worn ‘men’s’ clothes since for ever, whether for comfort or to make a statement. This brand is now repackaging it as a Queer thing and of course removing the bright colours because it believes people who might want to buy this brand are perhaps not so comfortable in their identity that they would wear pink or orange Hmm

I doubt they do fit everyone, really. We’ve all probably bought T-shirts and jumpers marketed as women’s fit but really just small versions of men’s and too tight round the chest. (One of many causes of my own bodily dissatisfaction, not being the right shape of woman to fit into what I later realised was just a boy’s T-shirt being sold to women.)

Grumblesigh · 05/06/2021 08:37

Genderless clothes will be clothes cut for men. Just like genderless medical is about men's health and genderless employment policies are for men's benefit and... well, you know how it goes.

DD3 ordered some 'unisex' jeans from Uniqlo - surprise surprise they did not fit over her lovely hips. Because they are remarketed men's jeans. It makes teenage girls think they are fat, or the wrong shape.

PlanDeRaccordement · 05/06/2021 08:40

Nice read. Great humour pointing out that “genderless” or “gender neutral” clothing is simply a marketing ploy.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/06/2021 09:10

They remind me of DSs nursery uniform - tracky bottoms and a sweat shirt (lucky him, he got to wear red). Cute in a small child... not so in a grown adult.

AdHominemNonSequitur · 05/06/2021 09:33

From comments: 'Thank you Bonds, I've been looking for a new Marxist Stormtrooper uniform'

I'll take one in a ladies medium!

T-shirts and jogging bottoms don't have a bloody gender for goodness sake.

Helleofabore · 05/06/2021 09:44

Thanks for posting that. Joe is exactly right in his usual style.

FFS!!! My mum never bothered checking my white Bonds singlets and basic tshirts were for girls when she bought them. They were just Bonds and fitted either sex. True, you can still buy those basics but you probably do need to get them from the men’s department. Why do people need to be told which clothes to buy from which department in store?

Bonds is definitely virtue signaling. They also have kids ‘Pride’ wear. They could have easily just gone back to basics and put a selection in both the women’s and the men’s sections. But that would not signal strong enough would it.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 05/06/2021 09:51

A few years ago DH and I both bought burgundy zip up hoodie a from Primark. Coincidentally, not as matching couples wear.

Occasionally we mix them up... DH soon realised, as he can barely get an arm in. I don't, as his is comfy...
It's almost like are bodies are different shapes!

PumpkinSpiceWoman · 05/06/2021 10:29

Whatever. You whine when clothing is sold by gender and you whine when it isn't.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/06/2021 10:38

There’s a difference between barely bum-covering shorts sold for small girls, or T-shirt’s with ‘future WAG’ on the front, and butt-ugly boiler suits sold on the basis of ‘modernity’ (and I assume they aren’t cheap either).

ErrolTheDragon · 05/06/2021 10:41

Genderless clothing would be a full range of styles and colours, cut to fit a variety of body shapes, female as well as male.

It's easy for prepubertal kids, no reason for 'boys and girls' aisles except for some underclothes.

It's not so easy for adults. We still need sexed clothes, just not so 'gendered'. My small, curvy DD sometimes finds it hard to get the sort of clothing she would prefer. Most 'unisex' clothes would be useless.

Tibtom · 05/06/2021 10:43

You whine when clothing is sold by gender and you whine when it isn't cut for sex

Fixed it for you.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/06/2021 10:46

Don't they mean unisex?

I used to have a unisex Gortex jacket. I loved it. Last time I went to buy one they were either women's or men's and the men's were too big and the women's too body-hugging.

I'm all for unisex if I can buy something that fits me and does not presume I want to accentuate my tits or hips or flash loads of flesh.

The Bonds range is dull though.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/06/2021 10:48

Genderless clothing would be a full range of styles and colours, cut to fit a variety of body shapes, female as well as male

Yes, or not cut to sexualise women's bodies.

My favourite t-shirts are men's because they are thick cotton and nice and comfy.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/06/2021 10:50

There's a place for 'unisex' for some types of clothing and some people's body shape. Its ok as part of the mix. But hardly revolutionary.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/06/2021 10:56

My favourite t-shirts are men's because they are thick cotton and nice and comfy.

They make good nightshirts on me.Grin
Last year for the first time ever in 30+ years, I received a company logo'd item of clothing (a jacket) available in women's sizes and therefore suitable as daywear! Oh, apart from a cotton shirt which made a surprisingly good 'smock' during pregnancy.

Helleofabore · 05/06/2021 11:01

To be fair. Bonds isn’t a brand known to be a fashion brand. We grew up with them for undies, singlets and shirts, and sporting gear. I don’t think many Australians would think of them as high fashion. Mind you a Bonds white tshirt goes with anything.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/06/2021 12:59

They make good nightshirts on me

I'm only short, although have post-menopausal portliness. A small man's t-shirt or even a medium is fine on me.

I wanted an 'adult human female' one but by the time I looked at the website the only ones left were tight fitted ones so I gave it a miss.

StellaAndCrow · 05/06/2021 13:22

Some great comments.
Ironically, Bonds’ description under the product says “MALE MODEL WEARS SIZE MEDIUM, IS 189CM TALL WITH 102CM CHEST AND 84CM WAIST & FEMALE MODEL WEARS SIZE SMALL, IS 180CM TALL WITH 84CM BUST AND 62CM WAIST”. Sounds like there’s two genders there to me. And only one has a “Bust”.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/06/2021 13:58

I thought that genderless (unisex) clothes were simply clothes that could be worn by men and women? I didn't think that such clothes denied the existence of men and women? Or maybe I am just mourning my dearly departed nice and roomy hiking jacket?

BadGherkin · 05/06/2021 14:43

@PumpkinSpiceWoman

Whatever. You whine when clothing is sold by gender and you whine when it isn't.
No - I roll my eyes and sigh when clothing is sold by gender.

I consider whether I want to buy it if it is designed for either a male or female sexed body.

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midgedude · 05/06/2021 14:52

@YetAnotherSpartacus

Don't they mean unisex?

I used to have a unisex Gortex jacket. I loved it. Last time I went to buy one they were either women's or men's and the men's were too big and the women's too body-hugging.

I'm all for unisex if I can buy something that fits me and does not presume I want to accentuate my tits or hips or flash loads of flesh.

The Bonds range is dull though.

May I recommend paramo?

The ladies version has shorter arms and some boob room but you get all the big pockets and a comfortable fit

and they repair and recycle

And the men's versions come in a range of colours beyond dull , dh has red

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/06/2021 14:59

Thank you - I will check them out! The women's version is still a little bit 'hourglass' for me and the main issue I have is tightness on the hips. Not a lot of bust and can't be arsed wearing bras so this really isn't an issue.

midgedude · 05/06/2021 15:29

There's lots of pull adjustments... I think they are pulled in for the photos!

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