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Convicted paedophile lusts over Desmond (the amazing one) [trigger warning for obvious reasons]

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OrchidInTheSun · 16/06/2019 13:53

Tom O'Carroll, former chair of PIE, has written a piece saying how sexy he finds Desmond. I note that our old friend Peter Tatchell is tagged too.

But of course there's nothing wrong or weird with a kid dressing up and dancing in gay clubs. Hmm

At least he's not pretending it's not sexualising childhood I suppose

Convicted paedophile lusts over Desmond (the amazing one) [trigger warning for obvious reasons]
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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:37

That blog is enormous, I daren't follow any more tags - what can be done here?

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:37

CEOPS?

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50shadesofgreyrock · 16/06/2019 15:38

Woah. So creepy ‘Desmond is hawt’ self-admitted paedophile was chummy with Melissa Hines’ husband and they introduced him to their 10yo son after an attempt to bring paediphilia in from the cold. Huh.

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ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 16/06/2019 15:38

Relevant bit ->

"RICHARD, A LIONHEART FOR MINORITY RIGHTS

Gay activist Peter Tatchell wrote an obituary in the Guardian last month which began as follows:

Across five decades the American psychiatrist and lawyer Richard Green, who has died aged 82, contributed to landmark achievements for gay and trans rights, risking his reputation and career to advance the understanding and acceptance of sexual and gender minorities.

I can personally vouch for the man’s courage in this regard. You won’t find anything about it in Tatchell’s otherwise excellent account, but Richard was also strikingly bold and brave in attempting to bring paedophilia in from the cold. While this aspect of his work was far less successful than the rest of his glittering career, the fact that an internationally renowned expert with much to lose would even think of such a project tells us what a fearless fighter he was.

My introduction to Richard was through the International Academy of Sex Research (IASR), of which he had been the founder and first president in 1975. Twenty years ago, in 1999, when he was about to take the annual presidency for a second time, he boldly went out on a limb, inviting me to speak at the academy’s Paris conference in 2000, to give a paedophile’s perspective. This was in keeping with his pioneering other work for sexual minorities as outlined in his memoir Gay Rights, Trans Rights – which I commend as admirably concise and characteristically witty.

Back in the 1970s Richard published a groundbreaking paper calling for the removal of homosexuality from the American Psychiatric Association’s list of mental disorders, “despite being advised that it would ruin his career”, as Tatchell says. The following year he reiterated his call at the APA annual meeting and the organisation removed homosexuality from the list.

It was a fantastic success, paving the way for gayness to be considered normal and acceptable. In what may now seem a madly ambitious bid to replicate this success with paedophilia, in 2002 he published an article in the journal of the IASR, the Archives of Sexual Behavior. Titled “Is pedophilia a mental disorder?”, the paper presented strong empirical data and cogent arguments so show that paedophilia, like homosexuality, should not be considered pathological. This time, though, he was up against the full weight of the most powerful taboo of all and his ideas did not find favour.

But he had a go, that’s the point, and he was very supportive towards me personally. After we met in Paris we continued to see each other whenever I was in London, where he was a professor of psychiatry until his retirement, after which he stayed on in the capital, moving only from Fulham to Hampstead in his final years. He successfully proposed me for membership of psychologist J. Michael Bailey’s cross-disciplinary Sexnet forum, wrote to the court on my behalf when I was in trouble with the law, and gave a glowing pre-publication endorsement of my book Michael Jackson’s Dangerous Liaisons.

Most of all though, I will remember with pleasure the many times we shared a convivial drink and a meal together, usually at his expense. He behaved like a friend, in other words, not like a shrink with a dangerous “convicted paedophile” as part of his caseload. I was never his patient and never felt like one in his company.

All those years ago in Paris, Richard and his wife Melissa Hines, a neuroscientist, put me at ease immediately, joining me on a conference-organised canal-boat excursion, where they introduced me to their ten-year-old son, Adam. More than anything else they could have done, this friendly gesture (fully visible to other conference participants on the trip) convinced me that neither of them shared the popular prejudice that paedophiles must be shunned as pariahs.

A summary of Richard’s paper “Is pedophilia a mental disorder?” is to be seen here, at Ipce, along with details of the wider debate in the Archives of which this article was a part. There is another obituary of Richard here, in the New York Times.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:39

www.ceop.police.uk/safety-centre/

Btw this should be more frequently promoted.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:42

I couldn't read it bygrab, that's just fucking too much.

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AlwaysComingHome · 16/06/2019 15:46

Paedophobia is the fear of children, not the hatred of paedophiles.

Hatred of paedophiles doesn’t have a name because it isn’t a psychiatric disorder. It’s fucking normal.

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OrchidInTheSun · 16/06/2019 15:46

Richard Green worked at Charing Cross Gender Identity Clinic.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:47

Doesn't seem to be how he's using it as that's what I initially thought.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:47

And there the red wool lines converge.

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carla1983 · 16/06/2019 15:48

"Someone stop the planet I want to get off."

I feel the same. Yuck yuck yuck.

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SmallHaddockAndChips · 16/06/2019 15:48

I first watched Desmond the other day although I’d heard about the ‘drag kid’ on here before. What I watched was a lot worse than I was expecting - he struck me as being an incredibly vulnerable child was was being let down by pretty much all the adults around him. Really awful. Doesn’t surprise me that he’s been described as being in the autistic spectrum. He came across as being so much younger than he actually was but with a lot of knowledge about the drag scene. That blog written by an actual paedophile really encapsulates my issues with it all. Awful but it really does shine a light on it.

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uglyswan · 16/06/2019 15:48

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190616144218/tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2019/05/08/desmond-is-truly-amazing-and-hot/" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">Archive link

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carla1983 · 16/06/2019 15:49

The article is absolutely disgusting. These men need to be dropped off on an island somewhere they can't escape...like Alcatraz

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:50

Who ever knows how to archive please do so ASAP as much of that blog as possible

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endofthelinefinally · 16/06/2019 15:50

That video is horrific. They are drinking from a toy tea set fgs.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/06/2019 15:51

I find the language used interesting (and familiar)

"Right wing reactionaries"
"Moral outrage"

I also find it interesting as others have noted, how out in the open this is. Normalising it.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:52

Actually thanks uglyswan looks like it's all there.

The comments!!!

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tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 16/06/2019 15:54

There are just no words really for how sickening this is. And as a poster upthread said that it's so out in the open to be ok to talk about a child like this.

His (the child's) parents need a serious taking to.

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 16/06/2019 15:58

His (the child's) parents need a serious taking to

It won't do any good. People "in" this can't see "out" of it, boundaries are so blurred that even being totally Frank doesn't get them to think.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 16/06/2019 15:59

The mum was desperate to be a kids club kid or something apparently.

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ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 16/06/2019 16:06

The comments on that blog are fucking horrendous. Think I need to burn my laptop now. Wtaf is wrong with people?

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MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 16/06/2019 16:14

Oh dear this is so awful. You can see where the underlying pressure to keep children in a pre pubescent state both mentally and physically might come from.

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 16/06/2019 16:15

boak. These poor kids, is nobody going to help them?!

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NotTerfNorCis · 16/06/2019 16:18

Just like TRAs, they call anyone who criticises them 'right wing reactionaries'.

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