39 Days Left

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The public consultation closes on 19 October.

You can find it here:
consult.education.gov.uk/government-equalities-office/reform-of-the-gender-recognition-act/consultation/intro/

Helpful guidance can be found here:
fairplayforwomen.com/full_guide/

and here:
womansplaceuk.org/wpuk-guidance-on-gra-consultation/

You can log in, answer a few questions, safe your spot, and come back to it later.

Don't delay. 39 days left.

34 days.

33 days bump! Use your Sunday morning to fill in a few questions. :)

I ordered the pack from Fair Play For Women weeks ago in order to help me with filling in the consultation but I'm still waiting for it to arrive...

Just emailed a whole load of my friends about it, sending them these links with the email.

andielouandroid
Have a look at the FPFW site. They have detailed info about answering some questions here
fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/FPFW-printable-guide-1.pdf

And a comprehensive guide to all the questions here
fairplayforwomen.com/full_guide/

andie

The guidance is on FPFW's website too. You can start filling in the consultation alongside (assuming you are on a computer not just a phone)

It is a bit heavy going - doing it in chunks

Just did my local councils Equality Consultation one. Full of gender/sex conflation and "assumed at birth" (a new one on me) nonsense

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Thank you so much for the advice. I shall get right on to it ✊🏼

Bumpety bump. 32 days.

I made a good start yesterday, saved for me to finish in a day or two.
Thank you for all the information and guidance to filling this in because when I first looked at it I didn't have a clue. It seems pretty obvious that it is designed to be off putting and difficult for people who do not have a vested interest to fill in.

Happy to help.

Still working on mine. Added more and saved.

I'm finding that I need to pace myself filling this form in but it is well worth persevering.

I'm very grateful for the guidance.

I'll add a point for the question about any other issues. FPFW make an excellent point in their guidance about the importance of statistics. If 'anyone' is a woman, there is no way to track statistics for crime, participation etc for biological women. Hugely problematic.

But with this issue, no one really cares about women or their participation etc so the argument is less persuasive. So I'd turn it back round. If we can no longer distinguish between biological and trans women because 'they're all women' then you can also no longer track statistics for transgender people.

We're constantly being told how marginalised and oppressed transgender people are, how at risk from all sorts of abuse, homelessness, self harm, suicide. With self ID there is no way to track any this either, and no way to track whether crimes against women are because they're women, or because they're transgender. Repealing the GRA would solve this.

Just a thought. Unless of course these statistics Stonewall are so keen to rely on are NOT so important? Another contradiction from camp TRA.

Done! Bloody hell that's hard work!

I'm in rural Norfolk and often wonder how cut off from reality we are, out in the boons, in our safe little bubble.

Yesterday at nursery, I got chatting to a small group of Mums and - oh so casually - brought this up. Not a one of them knew about it. Not ONE! How can this be? I got flustered and waffled and then we all collected our children and shuffled away.

How can I introduce this, calmly and sensibly? I launched into full campaign mode whereas this needed a much 'gentler' explanation. Any ideas?

Don’t know. Would be interested to hear tips.

@QuizteamBleakley.

Money permitting. I would buy a campaign pack off Fair Play for women which includes leaflets to hand out.

If you just want to talk...stick to the basics.

The government is looking to alter the law to allow ANY man for ANY reason to enter women's spaces.

This means women will have men in their bathrooms, changing rooms, refuges, hospital wards and jails.

Some of these men will do this because they are violent and/or perverts.

There is no way to know which men are nice and which are violent or perverted, therefore the safest way is to keep ALL men out of our spaces.

If you want to help. Go to Fair Play for Women or Women's Place website and fill out the government consultantation with their help.

Stand up for women and girls privacy and safety, stand up against these change in the law.

Quizteam, get the FPFW campaign pack. It's what I did - distributed it at some of the groups that I come into contact with, and left some at the church hall.

I've been asked to take some more over. They are running out, and other groups and halls are asking for some.

I posted this on another thread. Someone had mentioned this consultation in their comments on a Mail article, only to find her comments removed following complaints.

"The consultation does not seem to have been carried out well. I am sure that there are guidelines for Government consultation. I am equally sure that someone on MN will know what these are. I assume that the consultation was set up quickly in response to the petition. I would not be surprised that to find that some woke people have found their way into this bit of Government policy making. (Only look at who the Government chooses to take advice from on the issue.)

If the consultation is not open and transparent and breaches guidelines, it would be worth concerned organisations complaining now. Easier that complaining about results that have been heavily skewed by organised responses."

I have since looked at the government guidance:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/consultation-principles-guidance

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/691383/Consultation_Principles__1_.pdf

There have already been complaints on this board that this consultation is: poorly publicised, other than by specific interest groups such as the NUS, Greens and Stonewall who have been sending out guides; that completing it requires high levels of literacy; that there has been little effort to reach those most likely to be affected (women prisoners, teenage girls, conservative religious groups, sports people or indeed the 51% of the population who are female).

The consultation itself does not meet guidelines. The proposed legislation that is being consulted on is simply too important to influenced by something not done properly.

I am hoping that there are people on MN who know more than I do about the process, but I would have thought
a) a letter from key women's groups to the Cabinet Office expressing their concerns
b) emails alerting key journalists

might be in order, and might prevent damage before it happens.

I've seen mention that on some websites you can fill in the form. Does anyone know if they automatically fill in the form for you?

There are claims that the Green Party and others are providing members with links to pre-filled forms.

No one, I assume, is doing that for female prisioners who may not want to have to live with male boded convicted sex offenders.

I've just completed my response. It took upwards for an hour. I've worked around issues of human rights and/ or public health for 15 years and it was still quite demanding, so huge thanks to everyone on these boards for all the info and discussion. I found the Fair Play for Women guidance a very good springboard, and referred to Debbie Hayton's writing as well. Good strength to everyone completing theirs over the next few weeks!

I’ve just completed it. I may have waffled on about it taking 18 years for a girl to become a woman, with many physical, emotional and social challenges en route, and any male-born people aspiring to being a woman should be expected to undertake a similarly long and difficult journey.

I did about half last week. Will finish today.