BBCMisogyny tasered man, no mention of murdered woman victim

[Cherriesandapples]

Just this really... This morning the Today Radio 4 programme had a headline about a man been tasered by Gwent Police force and he had subsequently died and that the case had been referred to Police Complaints Commission. The 22 year old vulnerable woman that he had murdered who was living in a homeless shelter was barely mentioned! On Sky News just now they showed a picture of her, a beautiful young woman, also reported on independent Radio was the fact that the Police had arrived on the scene after the murder and that he was in an act of canabalism.

Why did the BBC yet again ignore the woman victim?

I just seem to be noticing more and more how certain media sources portray incidents in certain ways. There was a difference between how the BBC portrayed this incident and how others portrayed it. They knew the elements of the story but chose to headline it with a "police kill man with taser" as if killing a man was more important than the man killing a woman. That the woman's life was less important, worthless somehow.

The C4 news report was very good, though.
They paused the story and asked viewers to think about the woman murdered; who she was. They had a friend on to tell a story to humanise her. It was the sort of report people like us (!) always say there should be after a sensational murder.
Agree there were feminist issues with crime: C 4 said man had previous conviction for partner abuse.
Yes, RIP Cerys.

BIWI's point basically translates to 'we expect women to be murdered, at the rate of more or less one a day, by men they know, or met recently. It's much more worthy if report when the man does it in an unusual way.' And I know what they mean. But, yes, it's a feminist issue.

I agree cherries, the initial report WAS bizarre, certainly on the Today programme.

It was very much -A MAN WHO HAS BEEN TAZERED BY THE POLICE HAS DIED. (btw he was in the process of murdering a woman)

I was working yesterday so only had R4 in the morning, later indie radio and clearly other outlets reported this appropriately, C4 clearly one of those but those that heard the Today Programme obviously can see where I am coming from.

We don't actual know that it was the first officer on the scene who discharged the taser.

There are many murders unreported by the press. More men are murdered every year than women, and we don't hear about them either.

We do hear about the unusual crimes. A suspect dying at the hands of the police is unusual.

If he had been arrested, not tasered leading to death, we wouldn't have heard anything about this crime until the victim's name was released, and then I expect coverage would have been all about her and the horrific nature of the crime (which is pretty much how it has been since about this time yesterday when that information was released).

If he had been arrested, and there was nothing unusual about the crime then like the most of the 60 or so female and 200 or so male murder victims each year, it would not receive national coverage.

The report I saw on the TV yesterday lunchtime (sorry camt rmember which chanel) described what had happened then said "unfortunately the man died"

They didn't say that about the poor woman who had been murdered.

There are many murders unreported by the press. More men are murdered every year than women, and we don't hear about them either.

We do hear about the unusual crimes. A suspect dying at the hands of the police is unusual.

Completely agree. Also the fact that said man murdered a 'vulnerable' woman is not remotely unusual, but the fact her then cannibalised her is.

There would be no problem with saying. "The Man died." I think that would have been better.

I think the phrase 'unfortunately he died' is because obviously the police officer's intention was merely to subdue him, not to kill him. Whereas with the young woman she was murdered so obviously it was unfortunate for her, it goes without saying, indeed unfotunate doesn't even begin to cover it, it was tragic, horrific, outrageous etc.

But it was the murderer's intention to murder her, it wasn't an accident unlike the PO's intention which was not to kill the man. It was unfortunate in the true sense that he ended up dead.

mmm...I wonder if he might have been a victim of some mental ill-health ?

Your point is ?

My apologies for making a bad mistake with numbers. The rate is falling, but has not fallen that far. I've had another look, and the it is c.500+ each year (not c.260+).

But I think the point that most murders do not receive attention in the national media still stands, even though each life lost, whoever it is, a dreadful thing.

I suspect, however, the coverage on this crime, given the (admittedly limited) information on the sequence of event released by official sources so far (attack, taser, victim's death, suspect's death, IPCC referral in initial statement; detail of horrific nature of crime and identities of the people several hours later), would have been much the same had the victim been a man. Though I suppose it might have been quite different had the murderer been a woman.

Empire

There is much about the case we do not know. We do know - or at the very least we are told by the news reports - that the man was very recently released from prison and placed into some sort of hostel. Again we do not know why he was placed into this hostel in Argoed. I've read newspaper reports that it is a hostel for 'vulnerable' persons. Begs the question, as to why he was classified as being vulnerable.

Also, by all accounts the man subjected the woman to a horrific cannibalistic attack, sufficiently serious to cause her death - prima facie, I'd have thought of something being particularly mentally amiss.

Murder ? - again possibly or possibly a jury might have been persuaded to return a manslaughter verdict based on diminished responsibility.

Of course Empire, I hadn't thought of that aspect, too angry at the way the Beep reported it and at yet another crime of misogyny.

Just wanted to pick up on what someone said upthread:
More men are murdered every year than women, and we don't hear about them either.

Because although I know more men are murdered than women, whenever I turn on the news it's always about women or girls being sexually assaulted, raped or murdered. And often the victims have been targeted because they're female.

I don't think it's because society cares more about women than men because it did there'd be more debate about the causes of such violence.

And i don't think there's a conspiracy to keep us all scared, even though that is often the effect.

Maybe it's because the sexual nature of crimes against women make more shocking viewing, more salacious?

I don't know. What do you think?

I noticed this. I did assume it was because what had happened to the man (and the ipcc involvement) was not in doubt whereas they were still trying to work out what had happened to the woman.
That said, I am happy to be told I'm naive and trusting!

So whilst I wonder if he might have been mentally ill - you don't have any such question in your own mind ?

perhaps the story has changed since it was first reported (possibly because the next of kin had not been informed then) but what I see is 'woman horrifically murdered by man who died as the result of the tasering'.

her attractiveness, skin colour, age etc etc have had no bearing on the reporting. She certainly isn't being ignored because she is female. Seeing what isn't there?

as well as sympathy for the late victim and her family, also to the police officers and others who have seen something utterly horrific.