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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mother's (my!) profession not on birth certificate

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heidihole · 31/08/2013 12:27

I have just been perusing my DC's birth certificate. He was born in Guernsey in 2012.

Here is an identical one I found on google images.

Why on earth is my husbands profession (company director) listed on there and my profession (also company director) is not asked for!! I'm insulted. It's my bloody company, I set it up before I met him!

My other complaint is that it says "mothers name before marriage". Well my name is that same now (after marriage) as it was before! Why the automatic assumption that it would be different? Fair enough SOME peoples may be different but why is that the assumption?

Just wondering if this is the norm in the UK too or if Guernsey is in some 1950's time warp.

Ps next baby due 2014 also in Guernsey...guess I have no chance of having my profession listed on that? Can someone pay for me to get a lawyer and sue their arses for discrimination? :D

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colditz · 31/08/2013 15:46

That's odd, because my profession is on both of my children's birth certificates, from 2003 and 2006

bridgetsmum · 31/08/2013 15:51

I have 3 children. 2 born and registered in Scotland in 2002 & 2004.
The third born and registered in Ireland 2006.
All 3 certificates have full names and both mine and my husbands occupations

ivykaty44 · 31/08/2013 16:06

nickle page 2 gives the format changes and when - the birth certificates didn't change between 1837 and 1969! I have the old format...

it was in 1995 that mothers occupation was included

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/229487/A_Guide_to_Birth_Certificates_v3_0_Aug_2013.pdf

Melpomene · 31/08/2013 17:39

My occupation is on my dds' birth certificates (2003 and 2005).

I don't think there's a problem with the certificate having a space for the mother's previous surname, though it would be better if it was worded "previous surname, if any". It could be necessary if the child needs to prove a link back to their mother's previous name in future, for example if they want to apply for a passport/visa for another country and need to prove that their mother was born in that country. It is still common for women to change their surname on marriage. Ideally they would have a similar space for the father's previous surname if applicable.

catsrus · 31/08/2013 17:41

My dc were born between 1990 - 1995 and, as said, the old certificates did not have a space for mother's profession - but the registrars just wrote it in next to my name - so it is there on all three of them. They also have my last name not exH's. IIRC I had to ask each time but it was not a battle - it was just done.

The more we point out how incongruous things like this are the more likely things are to change - a bit like never accepting "Mrs Hisname" if you are not, actually, Mrs Hisname. It gets wearing correcting people, but how would they know if we don't.

Fraxinus · 01/09/2013 12:25

Hello, heidi hole, I wonder if you purchased the full birth certificate when your child was born?

If it is the free one, it contains very little information. The full one requires place of birth and nationality as well as profession for both parents, in the uk.

heidihole · 01/09/2013 15:55

Fraxinus according to the website guernseyroyalcourt.gg/article/6869/Family-History

General Register of Births
Each entry on the register provides the following information:

Date of Birth
Christian names of child
Sex
Name of father and name of mother before marriage
Place of birth
Rank, profession or occupation of father
Date of registration

I'm really pissed off!

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heidihole · 01/09/2013 15:56

Also really gobsmacked that child's surname isn't recorded. Its almost like its the law that child takes fathers surname! no option for anything else. what a backwater...

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ShootMeNowPlease · 01/09/2013 16:02

The Channel Islands are vvvv weird. Sark is actually, literally feudal. Jersey is toxic (can't say more as my knowledge of the place comes through work and I don't want either to out myself or give away confidential information). I don't know much about Guernsey, but it wouldn't totally surprise me if their attitudes to women were a bit, um, backward.

Fraxinus · 01/09/2013 17:09

Yeah it must be a backwater.

Make a petition.

Is it a democratic island?

KristinaM · 01/09/2013 19:13

MRS GSR captain chaos -didnt t write "most women", she wrote most people "

Nor did she say she was taking about the Uk only

As I suspect when You refer to the Uk, you actually mean England and Wales. Or have you collated the figures for Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales ?

MrsGSR · 01/09/2013 19:21

I acknowledged that in a later post, Kristina. I misread the first time, I'm very sorry.

According to the article I read, the quoted statistic was for the whole of the UK. I am well aware of the difference between UK/England & Wales/GB.

CaptChaos · 01/09/2013 19:27

My apologies. All I can say in my defence was that it was early and I was talking out of my arse.

I did mean most women. The rest of it was just a load of bollocks, and I'll ask for it to be removed.

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