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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sexism in children's books.

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DoItToJulia · 25/01/2013 19:49

I'm thinking of The Tiger who Came For Tea. Daddy saves the day.

Any others?

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TheSmallClanger · 28/01/2013 12:40

According to Amazon, The Football Fairy is no longer available, thank goodness.

There is "Francesca the Football Fairy", but that's a Rainbow Fairy book, so Rachel and Kirsty presumably find her ball for her after the goblins nick it.

FeckOffCup · 28/01/2013 16:27

J M Barrie clearly thought very little of women from what I can remember of Peter Pan. The female characters are awful, Tinkerbell is vile to Wendy throughout, Wendy gets jealous when Peter saves Tiger Lily from drowning and the mermaids "playfully" try to drown Wendy because she is Peter's new interest.

DoItToJulia · 29/01/2013 06:50

Wow, a huge response, thank you!

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CheerfulYank · 29/01/2013 07:01

I love Rose Casson in the Casson family books. :)

CheerfulYank · 29/01/2013 07:03

Did anyone ever read a book called Understood Betsy? I haven't read it in ages but iirc the heroine is quite clever and self-sufficient for someone written so long ago. (Google tells me it was published in 1916.)

ninjasquirrel · 29/01/2013 07:26

Yes to E Nesbit being good - especially considering the age they were written in. I'd like to stand up a bit for C S Lewis as well. He was 'of his age' but'The Horse and His Boy' has a very strong female character (shame about the undertones of racism)

bringmeroses · 29/01/2013 07:29

I'm just popping on to say that the dad in peppa pig is always a figure of fun, so it works both ways, just characterisation. I also hate the Large family weight/illness stories.
There was a v funny bit in a nature doc the other week where the male bird was hopeless at nest building (dcs laughed and looked at dh sympathetically!) but then redeemed himself by catching food for chicks... Sexism in the wild!!

ninjasquirrel · 29/01/2013 07:32

I just remembered the most sexist picture book we have - Richard Scarry, What do people do all day, from 1960. And another non-sexist one for older children - Ballet Shoes.

bringmeroses · 29/01/2013 07:41

Btw I wouldn't knock TTWCTT; some families still live like this! Without the tiger of course. The dad doesn't exactly go ballistic at not having dinner on the table which I would object to.
Also a huge huge fan of narnia. Always thought boys got a rough deal in form of Edmund. Aslan being a female lion would have been good tho.

DoItToJulia · 29/01/2013 07:45

www.amazon.co.uk/Princess-Smartypants-Babette-Cole/dp/0140555269

These are more up my street though!

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DoItToJulia · 29/01/2013 07:46

www.amazon.co.uk/Princess-Smartypants-Babette-Cole/dp/0140555269

Try again!

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EmpressOfThePuddle · 29/01/2013 07:50

I gave Dniece The Worst Princess by Anna Kemp for Christmas. Princess is sick of sitting around in her best dresses waiting for her prince to turn up. When he finally appears she expects to go adventuring with him but finds out he expects her to just keep sitting around prettily while he protects her from the dragon...
So she dumps him and goes adventuring with the dragon instead. Grin

CaseyShraeger · 29/01/2013 09:13

But Daddy Pig in Peppa Pig is shown as a very hands-on father who seems to do more of the day-to-day care than Mummy Pig, which I think is great -- he's a bit rubbish at the practical stuff but he's fantastic at parenting, interacting with his children and the touchy-feely stuff. I think that's a very positive depiction of a male parent overall.

bringmeroses · 29/01/2013 14:03

CaseyS, our DCs laugh at Daddy Pig doing things like smuggling chocolate cake into the trolley which Peppa and George wouldn't do. He struck me as an amiable buffoon who was nevertheless a loving parent. I often notice the 'men are a bit useless' idea used for humour. Programmes like Men behaving badly and even Fawlty Towers, women are the "together" ones who tolerate their hapless menfolk which seems a theme in Peppa Pig. Also - hurrah! - Peppa i the star not George; and Lucy is the heroine of The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe. I am amazed at how many very popular recent children's books have male lead characters, I don't remember a bias when I was growing up.

The majority of children's picture books still seem to focus on the mother/child relationship e.g. Owl Babies, the Daisy books etc. though there are many exceptions. I have an old children's edition of the OED with the 'N' word in it which left me gobsmacked when I noticed. Times change!

I have missed a lot of the books mentioned on here so thanks for the ideas people :)

Mrgrowlyface · 25/04/2018 06:50

I'm sorry but that's just a bit other the top. It either had to be a dad or a mother it's a 50/50. Also don't forget that sexism affects men to

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