Private Abortion Clinic To Open In Northern Ireland.

[DioneTheDiabolist]

A Marie Stopes clinic offering private abortion is due to open in NI next week. This will be the first private abortion clinic on the island of Ireland and are offering abortion up to 9 weeks gestation.

Only the Alliance Party and Dawn Purvis of the PUP are in support of this. The rest of the political parties have refused to comment or are actively against it.

The location of the clinic is secret to protect those who work there. Is there anything that I can do to support the clinic and the women who use it?

there are probably some campuses that turn more of a blind eye if it transpires that the staff member knew the intentions of the girl than others, but there are definitely some that take a hard line on it

I think in practical terms it means the tutor may verbally tell the girl that she will be getting an extension for coursework, but the tutor may not sign an extension form till the girl gets back

there are if I remember correctly, a few councilling services that do pre-abortion councelling, but a friend worked for one and it was quite pro-life (as was she) and was geared along the lines of telling the girls that it wasn't so bad to keep the baby.. they recruited councellors they hired had had unplanned pregnancies which they kept

i'm totally flabbergasted halloweeney. i'm an academic in Belfast and i'm finding it really difficult to get my head round the rationale for sacking an adult female for advising another adult female on her options...

in the instance of the exam and travelling. my advice to the student would be to get a general letter from her gp which doesn't give any specific details to allow her to resit at another stage. the university would never need to know precisely what her 'health problem' was or that it was ever discussed. i would imagine the university would be treading on very dodgy ground sacking someone for this, or indeed denying the student the opportunity to resit an exam (discrimination anyone?)

i don't doubt you for a minute that it happens though - there's an academic paper to be written out of that very piece of info!

this is worth the read

www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/1018/1224325412766.html

it doesn't help that some unis work on temp contracts and keep people on them for years, so even some senior lecturers are regularly re-interviewing for their own jobs

I'm sure THAT'S probably illegal too after a certain amt of years, but it does "keep them in line" and make them easy to sack without it being sacking IYWKIM

I don't know what the GPs position would be, if they gave a girl a letter which "allowed" her to miss coursework, which in turn "allowed" her to travel for an abortion??? I'm not so sure that your GP can offer you any help before hand afterwards (they just have to clean up the mess afterwards ) ?
I'm not sure

but I know that there is precident for "mental pressure" not counting as a reason to help a girl, remember that 13yr old rape victim who was banned from travelling by the courts who tried to get exempt on mental health grounds. So that's not an angle likely to help the GPs or the girls

mummmsy this quote from your link sums it up really well

"This is a familiar implied slur: there is a weird, unexamined paranoia among many Northern politicians that pro-choice campaigners have an eager and morbid desire to increase the abortion rate, the more the better"

a tutor who is pro life and wants to support girls who are going to travel, is almost seen as recruiting and trying to increase numbers, it's bonkers and not quite tangible enough to put into text well, but I think that quote does it better than I could

I think this sums up the irony of the "pro-life" protests rather well...

Irish Pro-Lifers Protest Against Saving Lives

I did it again , a tutor who is pro-CHOICE

being pro-choice can be seen as = LIKING abortions and pushing them, nobody LIKES abortions, even people who have them without regret don't think they're ace and everyone should try it! its a bit mental. But there is the attitude amongst some that pro-choicers are bending young girls arms and enjoy packing them off to England

halloweeney that makes sense when you put it like that.

I always mix up pro-life/pro-choice too

sorry for all the posts, I'm just struggling to get the words right, but think I've got it now:

say you change the word abortion for MRI scan

If you have no MRI facilities in your region, and you campaign for one and fund raise for one, does that mean that you want more people to NEED or WANT an MRI? no! of course not! but change it back to abortion and that's what prolifers say you're doing

or say your employee and friend comes to you saying they need time off for an MRI, and you have a chat, tell them it'll be fine, blah blah blah, then offer a lift there or pick up or to pick up their kids from school etc.. now if you change it back to abortion, and do those same supportive things, you are (according to some prolifers) contributing to your friend choosing to have the proceedure

does that explain a bit better how support gets twisted to selling abortions in Ireland?

I think the mere fact abortion is available, makes some people believe that others will be less cautious about family planning as they know they will have the safety net of access to abortion. Some may believe it lessens the fear of getting pregnant and as a result allows people to be more reckless.

The mere fact that a society allows for abortion, means that society allows for irresponsible behaviour.

I don't believe the above but I think that belief is out there.

The vast number of illegal abortions in countries which don't allow legal abortion is a testament to how stupid that belief is.

Yes and I think 5 % of Irish women have had abortions so clearly there is a need for such clinics.

People will opt for an abortion if they wish to, by providing it on this Island just alleviates the extra hassel of travel and currency conversion, which can be quite awkward in an already stressful situation.