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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

keeping my surname - miss, ms or mrs?

51 replies

peaky123 · 17/09/2011 22:11

Im getting married next week, and have decided to keep my surname. Our son has both of our surnames.
The thing is, I would like to know what others who have kept their maiden names do about their title? Miss, with the obvious unmarried connotations, Ms which is neutral but most people think means divorced, or Mrs? I have no idea.

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MrsTittleMouse · 18/09/2011 11:49

I use Ms. Drives me bonkers when people assume that it means divorced!
If I'm being really arsey (usually because someone assumes that because I'm a SAHM that I'm thick HmmAngry) then I use Dr. :)

JessinAvalon · 18/09/2011 13:14

I use Ms and have done since I was about 15 and realised that there was a 'two tier' system. When people ask why I don't use Miss, I say it's because I'm not 12.

To me, the use of Mrs/Miss creates a caste system amongst women and the use of Ms puts us on an equal footing with me - i.e. it's no-one's business.

HeavyHeidi · 18/09/2011 13:24

I'm Ms. As someone wrote, Miss - not married, Mrs - married, Ms. - my marital status is none of your damn business.

SardineQueen · 18/09/2011 13:36

I was a Ms from teens to when I got married. Then I became a mrs (and took DHs name but we'll gloss over that Grin).

If I were you I'd be a Ms I think. If you care enough not to change tour name it seems counter-intuitive to pick a title that undoes that IYSWIM.

puzzlesum · 18/09/2011 13:37

I've also always used Ms since teenage days. I couldn't give a monkeys if anyone thinks it means divorced (I'm not as it happens).

OddBoots · 18/09/2011 13:42

I changed my surname when I got married and was a Mrs, I still am for most stuff but I have more regularly been using Ms, there's no divorce on the cards but as I get older I feel more and more that it is no-one else's business.

The more non-divorced women who use Ms the more that myth will be slain.

GirlWithALlamaTattoo · 18/09/2011 13:45

My friend from work is Mrs Maiden-name. She wanted to acknowledge that she was married but also keep her name.

Blu · 18/09/2011 13:49

I am not married (nor divorced)
I use Ms.
Miss sounds like a child or a teenager, not a professional, mature woman.
And my marital status is no one's business, and why would I want it marked out as part of my name? It is not part of my identity.
Men don't have thier marital status enshrined as part of their title, so why would women?

Carrotsandcelery · 18/09/2011 13:49

Interesting. I didn't change anything and have remained "Miss" if it becomes totally necessary to put it on a form.

(If I am with my Dad he will insist on adding that I am married Grin)

seeker · 18/09/2011 13:55

Ms. But you should be that already!

seeker · 18/09/2011 14:00

Oh, and befor anyone comes on here whining about "oh, ms isn't a proper word- how do you pronounce it?" well, you sem to manage to pronounce mrs ok, don't you, you prat?

As you were.

TheFarSide · 18/09/2011 14:08

We need to stick with Ms for solidarity reasons. It's taking a long time, but it is slowly becoming used and accepted.

TheRealTillyMinto · 18/09/2011 14:22

Ms. No one seems to think am am divorced or have a problem pronouncing it.

i Grin and pronounce it 'Muz', 'Muz Real Tilly Minto'

(sometime i do get the look: i thought she would be one of those women...that is why i am Grin)

ideally no title. they seem pointless to me.

LeBOF · 18/09/2011 14:37

I've been Ms since I turned 18, I think. Miss always seemed a bit twee and childish to me, like Master.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 18/09/2011 14:45

Grin at seeker. My cousins' wives have both done the 'how do you say it - it doesn't have any vowels!'

steamedtreaclesponge · 18/09/2011 14:56

I'm a Ms - don't think it really says 'divorced' any more, surely? Most of my friends (in our 20s) use the same, AFAIK. I pronounce it 'Muz' too.

MamaChocoholic · 18/09/2011 15:06

ms, from before I was married till now. why should I declare my marital status all the time?

rosy71 · 18/09/2011 15:09

I am not married and use Miss mostly but have always used Ms sometimes too. It depends how I'm feeling! As I get older, I find it a bit ridiculous being Miss because it makes me think of a young girl so I am tending more towrds Ms these days. I also frequently find I get called Mrs - people obviously assume I must be married at my age. I don't bother to correct people though - it just underlines how ridiculous the whole thing is!

aliceliddell · 18/09/2011 15:13

what mama and blu and maybe others said

higgle · 18/09/2011 15:17

I kept my name when I married 27 years ago. I tried very hard to be "Ms" but people didn't use it, so I reverted to "Miss" I rather like this as strangers don't judge us as a married couple.

fluffles · 18/09/2011 15:17

i use ms maidenname but i don't object to being called mrs marriedname.

to me my official name is ms maidenname but if people call me mrs marriedname it's just like calling me 'dh's wife' or 'dm's daughter' or whatever, it's a description of me rather than my actual name.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 18/09/2011 18:42

Ms. My father has accepted it from the day I first used it, 4 years ago. My mother, however, insists it's for divorcees. Dad, however, pointed out that it'd get less judgement if people assumed I was divorced with a child than an unmarried mother with a child... Hmm Parents, eh?

peaky123 · 18/09/2011 19:50

Ms it is then. I am a fan of bolshy and I am probably ''one of those sorts'', so ill embrace it.

Upon further thinking, we should all be Ms really, shouldnt we? Regardless of marital status.
Lady - would you consider a new name, not yours or your husbands, for you both? I know a couple who have done this recently, he didnt like his surname because he associated it with his father whom he is estranged from, and she wanted them all to have the same name.

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rosy71 · 18/09/2011 20:12

We had a teacher at secondary school who used Ms with her married name. She was Mrs at first, then became Ms. I suppose taking your husband's surname doesn't necessarily mean you have to announce your marital status to eveyone either.

BluddyMoFo · 18/09/2011 20:14

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