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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women who refer to cars/boats as 'she' Grrr.

43 replies

DrNortherner · 06/08/2011 17:05

Just spent 10 days in Spain with dh's Dad and step mum. His step Mum is lovely, however she does a few things that irk me, including referring to her parents as 'Mummy and Daddy' She's 62 FFS.

Anyway, the whole time we were there she referred to her car as 'she' - she needs petrol, have you locked her? etc
and also to boats in the harbour - Oh she's a beauty.

Nobody does this anymore do they?

What can I say to her next time she does this?

OP posts:
ElephantsAndMiasmas · 12/08/2011 13:46

It's traditional to name boats (and thus cars, I imagine) after a woman or girl in your life, your daughter or girlfriend for instance. What's strange is that in some times/places it has been considered unlucky to have an ACTUAL woman on your boat. Certainly don't have any problem with boats being called "she" though, they have characters and if they are called "Eleanor Jane" or whatever then it's only natural.

SachaF · 12/08/2011 14:17

Yes it is traditional to classify a boat as female. However, the french use Le bateau, which then gets confusing when trying to speak to the French about a boat - say something like 'isn't she a beauty' and they'll think you're referring to any women on board and get upset!

Molasses · 12/08/2011 14:20

I thought cars, boats, countries were referred to as 'she' because they are things which can be occupied. So I don't like it.

jennyvstheworld · 12/08/2011 15:38

Do you still think that Molasses? There are a few posts here which discuss the genuine etymology so maybe you can like the world a little better! Smile

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 15/08/2011 16:31

My car is a she because she has a female name, so it would therefore be odd to refer to her as "he".

I acknowledge that in many people's eyes, naming a car makes me a bit of an arse. And that they might have a point.

Ormirian · 15/08/2011 16:35

I call my cars she. I didn't think it was a feminist issue.

OTheHugeManatee · 15/08/2011 16:37

I had a bike called Titus once. Full name Titus Androgynous.

Needless to say it was an 'it' Grin

Fisharefriendsnotfood · 15/08/2011 16:43

Gosh OP you really must have very little to trouble you. The majority of inanimate objects are considered male, not female, but this doesn't bother you. Seems to me some "feminists" want to find things to be unhappy about Hmm

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 15/08/2011 16:45

I have to say I did wonder like Molasses if it was a bit iffy, calling machinery "she".

I feel happier knowing it isn't.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 15/08/2011 16:47

That Brett Anderson was pretty androgynous though Manatee - would you refer to him as "it"? Shock Wink

startail · 15/08/2011 16:51

Or care for them. If you mistreat your ship you may end up very dead.
In our family boats and cars always have names and they have been of both sexes. Mostly male, but post DDs my cars have both been female.

wem · 15/08/2011 17:36

It was my thread about teddies etc being 'he'. I think the difference is that boats are not anthropomorphised to the same extent as teddies. They are much more of an object, therefore to call them 'she' could be sexist. In fact it's quite telling that once an object becomes more obviously anthropomorphised, by looking like a moving, talking creature, it becomes a 'he'.

claig · 15/08/2011 20:13

I think they are referrred to as she, because they are cared for and are valuable. Male sailors depended on the ships that they were on the high seas with. They valued and cherished the ship and therefore gave it a female presence. It is the same with cars and even car engines. Anything that is liked and valued is given a female name, since it has worth and value. For instance you often hear people describing their cars as "a real beauty". It is basically anthropomorphising inaminate objects and showing how valuable and cherished and cared for they are.

claig · 15/08/2011 20:16

But you also hear cars referred to as a "real beast" i.e. something wild and fast and dangerous, which animalises the car and emphasises its speed and power.

claig · 15/08/2011 21:10

Looked into it further, it's even deeper than that. It goes right back to Greek goddesses protecting sailors at sea, and it is linked with death and the danger of death of the sailors, and fast car drivers and WWII fighter pilots etc.

IWouldNotCouldNotWithAGoat · 16/08/2011 07:19

I never, ever tire of the Feminism section. Smile

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 16/08/2011 07:24

Our cars always have male names and are male..current car Gunther the Golf

nooka · 16/08/2011 07:43

It's funny, my dh suggested that the cars should be given names and I was very dismissive, but I expect boats to have names, and for them, in general to be female. Thanks for the interesting link OLKN I like learning about English as a language because it's such a mix, showing our interesting history.

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