So because I'm anti-porn and don't think seven year olds should be encouraged to join glamour modelling...

[DontCallMePeanut]

A friend has labelled me a conservative feminist?

This was following a conversation about this article aboout which I said I thought any mother encouraging her child to join (when she's older) the glamour modelling industry was irresponsible.

Apparently, the fact I'm anti-porn and against encouraging glamour modelling means I'm an "Ultra conservative feminist"... Oh, and anti-sex. (That's the opposite of sex positive feminism, isn't it?)

Any thoughts on this? I'm a bit and assuming the young man who made the comments isn't as clued up on feminism as he claims

Exactly - it soon becomes a men vs women argument ie divisive... Also, how do you tell if someone is being supercillious because they are a man talking to a woman and believe in men's superiority - rather than simply being a dick and believing that it is espescially they, themselves, who are superior? I also think it becomes a term that is then easily used to snipe at anyone with whom you disagree "You're just mansplaining" to remove the credibility of their argument through means other than actually critiquing their argument.

Undoubtedly not, but how is thinking that 'using sexist language to defeat sexist attitiudes may be flawed' associated with showing a lack of interest in confronting sex-based privilege? Are you 'femsplaining'?

Ok, so that's a feminist definition of the word, but I'm not sure that we can reinvent the meanings of words so easily. To avoid semantics then (how often do these discussions boil down to that) I simply mean discriminating against someone on the basis of their gender.

Going massively off-thread, perhaps we should have some terminology that differentiates between discrimination by those historically possessed of the power and those historically dispossessed. Clearly to suggest that women cannot be sexist (trad) or black people racist (trad) is untrue.

Ok, femsplaining, whatever; it was a joke. But could you answer my question about your logic? I'm interested.

Jenny I would say that privileged women sometimes talk to women less privileged themselves in a similar way. The thing is that the people who do it tend to be unconscious of their privilege and unconscious about the assumptions they are making. It is this unconsciousness that words like "manplaining" are attempting to change. You can't challenge assumptions until these are identified ifyswim.
And I think that language is not set on stone. New words are invented all the tome. The only was to see if a word is useful is if it is used by a significant number of people. I think "mansplain" has achieved wide enough acceptance to be considered valid on such situations.