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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

whats the point of the unions

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CerealOffender · 27/09/2010 20:51

on channel 4 right now. the unions hold women in low paid jobs with utter contempt

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Poogles · 29/09/2010 12:41

They do actually say this, hard as it is to believe!

The Company have an excellent diversity policy, although sometimes it gets hijacked for the wrong reasons!

Historically, the Company has had major diversity issues lots of which were caused by the unions not fighting for women when raising issues against male workers (unless they were management!) and discriminating against ethnic minorities.

We just get issues raised every time new family friendly legislation comes in as it is 'obviously designed to put men out of work and get jobs for women' despite applying to all genders!

I think the issue with our particular TU is that it is made up of dinosaurs who are still very much stuck on the 70's and still see the issues raised in 'Made in Dageneham' as an affront!

Takver · 29/09/2010 16:07

Aaargh, this is a complex one.

I haven't seen the programme, but wouldn't be the least surprised if this was chosen as a good moment politically to do a hatchet job on the unions.

Agree that unions are vital, not only for low paid workers, but IMO for as many workers as possible. We know that large corporations co-operate/work together, how can we fight back without standing together. Clearly as women and further exploited we need to work together even more.

BUT I am not in the least surprised by Poogles experience. It is important to remember that a lot of unions have very bad history going right back to the early days, when they saw themselves as defending a living family wage going to a man, and often therefore saw working women as competition who would lower wages.

Admittedly going back a fair few years, but I have painful memories of my Mum (who was brought up to be as solid an old Labour, union woman as you can imagine) having massive fights within her union - NALGO as was (so the lower paid of local government clerical workers). A majority of members were women (I think nationally) - but all the union officials in her area were men, and their attitude was that the women were unimportant and working for pin money.

SugarMousePink · 29/09/2010 20:45

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