Cleavage

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Call me a Prude, Old-fashioned, Whatever (I'm sure some will!) but watching the Boris Johnson interview I noted with some queasiness the deep cleavage revealed by one of the mumsnet interviewers.

It irritates me intensely to see women in professional situations, e.g. Jackie Smith in Parliament, or my locum GP, revealing inches of titillating cleavage. For a young female doctor to be flashing breasts while in consultation in a small room with male patients strikes me as risky. In these business situations, men are still required to be covered from neck to toe in sober suiting and restrictive collar and tie, surely women should also sport sober attire?

Such displays undermine credibility, compromise respect and distract colleagues - some might get the wrong idea.
Maybe some women want that?

You know, I kind of forgot that this thread was about the lady in the Boris vid...just watched it and I really don't think her cleavage was OTT at all. I was thinking of something more akin to <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=girls.gunaxin.com/wp-content/gallery/boobquake/cleavage_1.jpg&imgrefurl=girls.gunaxin.com/boobquake-2010-cleavage-edition/55485&usg=__mippac3ecRchVoV7Ya-ipGs6gYU=&h=413&w=509&sz=37&hl=en&start=0&sig2=4bKQQscbgvNqcUznq9NdyA&zoom=1&tbnid=t0JSswKLu61d1M:&tbnh=141&tbnw=193&ei=OjqVTNWCI4mLswblwPRk&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcleavage%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D589%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=140&vpy=80&dur=2512&hovh=202&hovw=249&tx=134&ty=95&oei=OjqVTNWCI4mLswblwPRk&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this

Nice sense of style that lady has!

Elephants - please refer to my earlier post about hairy moobs!

I have ample size breasts and find it hard sometimes to hide my cleavage, no matter what I wear they always seem to want to pop out! The only way i could hide my cleavage would be to wear turtle neck tops all year round and there is no way I am doing that! Just because your cleavage shows does not make you tarty/cheap. Usually, women who are offended by other women shoing their cleavage are flat chested themselves!

flat chest burds complaining about big uns,isnt a v good argument is it

So what do you think a "good" argument is then?

one that omits flat chested lassies offended by big uns.

Hmmm well it is true though

crivens you're on fire with that searing observation

you can always go to another thread

as could you.but your incisive dem flat titted burds hypothesis is a feminist issue

nah don't think so...not at all. Are you flat chested by any chance and I have offended you? Did not mean to offend anyone

as a fuckin pancake,crying into my aa

hahaha well i sometimes wish i was flat as a pancake! They get in the way!

from chin lookin down i see ma feet nowt else in way

i can't see my feet, not because of my huge boobs but because of my huge bump!

"crying into my aa" :o

I don't think you need to reduce this to "ooh they're jealous", you don't have to be flat-chested to hate the sight of cleavage. You just have to be, you know, a bit weird and possibly a bit disgusted by women's bodies in general.

serious point is notion women moderate/restrict self in order to control base urges of others

who is your global we addressed to

Yes, shock horror - woman seen in possession of a pair of breasts.

The MNer in that video is wearing a perfectly modest dress, and, as others have pointed out, her cleavage shows because she happens to be endowed in that area.

What I can't stand is the thought that other women are thinking thoughts about me similar to those the OP voiced.

And isn't this even worse form than a thread about a thread - a thread criticizing the appearance of a MNer?

Definitely posted in the wrong topic - although not sure there's a place for it anywhere.

hear hear brightlight and whatswrong

on so many levels last post need challenging

there is no implicit or compulsory mn camaraderie,permissable to take piss out of each other

feminist topic is open discursive to all.not a pre-approved topic list.oh eer cant say that missus

If I went to see the doctor and s/he was wearing a gimpsuit and chains with hole for their nipples, I would admittedly think it was a bit odd, but it wouldn't provoke me to harrass or otherwise be a "risk" (thanks for that nebulous concept OP). It would still be normal human behaviour to respect and keep your distance even if someone is plainly dressed "inappropriately" for work. So what does it matter if a doctor or anyone shows some cleavage? It is normal. Normal clothes show it off.

You're not going to prevent "risk" by dressing in a high-necked top or a floor length poncho or a burka or a suit of armour. For some people, if they can tell you're a woman that's reason enough to hurt you.

Jitter - I have read your other posts on MN and thought they were really interesting and sensible. Do you honestly think that clothing can reduce risk? Because for me that idea sits alongside the idea that assault or catcalling or rape are compliments. How do you explain girls in sober school uniform getting shouted at or groped? Or old ladies? If clothing was the panacea that could prevent this happening, don't you think we would all be wearing whatever-it-was?

Well, maybe I've got my knackered wine-soaked po-face on to night - cheers!