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Anyone read The Slap (Christos Tsiolkas)

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iwantavuvezela · 01/07/2010 20:52

Just finished reading this ..... loved it - anyone else read it?

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goldenlife · 02/08/2010 10:40

Maybe I was being harsh on the characters: towards the end some of them had redeeming qualities and they had struggles in their lives.

grumpypants · 05/08/2010 10:30

I'm nearly at the end and started off thinking they were all easy to loathe, but then realised that they were just people, with good and bad - the only one not developed enough is Gary. It is really interesting - the EBF, the cultures, the reactions to what happened etc.

deaddei · 13/08/2010 12:19

I'm about halfway through and really enjoying it...puts me off Australia.

BeckyBendyLegs · 13/08/2010 18:30

Oh this is on my amazon wish list...

But then I'll read anything more or less. Just read the Passage and now reading Rachel Cusk. I love David Mitchell and Haruki Murakami (someone mentioned above as 'genius writers').

deaddei · 13/08/2010 19:22

Just finished it- found it a bit frustrating towards the end.
I wanted to hear what Gary's thoughts were- and felt the meltdown Hector had was bizarre.
Definitely worth a read though.
Am moving on to the one by the writer of American Wife.

thegirlwiththemouseyhair · 14/08/2010 10:11

I'm about 80 pages in and really not feeling moved to finish it.
I agree with those that want to slap everyone in it.
What a hideous bunch of people.
And it is NOT well written. It's way too expositional and therefore no subtlety - no shades of meaning.
Booker long list??
WTF?
(DP asked if I was going to throw it across the room _ I lie in bed tutting loudly whilst reading Grin )

grumpypants · 14/08/2010 10:19

It had particular resonance for me because a few days before i started it, an elderly lady slapped ds! So, I was v interested in the reactions of the characters.

BeckyBendyLegs · 19/08/2010 15:18

On page 100 - can't believe this is on the Booker long list. It's no work of great literature. I'm going to read it to the end though.

AgentProvocateur · 19/08/2010 16:07

Agree, BBL. I read it after reading the reviews, and while I thought it was an utterly compelling read (I read it in one day and a very long night!) I don't think it's comparable to books on previous Booker longlists.

I read an interview with the author recently, and I tried to get tickets to hear him at the Edinburgh Book festival but he was sold out.

QueuePosition3 · 19/08/2010 16:10

it IS SO RUDE!!! i cant imagine a ruder book i haev read for a LONG time

sauce!

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BeckyBendyLegs · 21/08/2010 20:12

I'm no on page 320. It is quite rude. Perhaps I am boring but despite being about the same age as the females in this book and having children, like many of the main characters, I rarely get totally drunk, take the odd valium, do random spontaneous rude things to my husband in the kitchen or to anyone else in any other random place, get strange men buying me drinks when I go out with female friends (hasn't happened for a loooong time). Ah well. Perhaps I should move to Australia.

I am kind of enjoying this book now but still think it is no great shakes. It's a bit contrived and artifical. Unless I am truly missing something (see above!).

thedollyridesout · 21/08/2010 20:28

Agree that they are a hideous bunch of people with the exception of the teenagers. Paints a dim view Australia, doesn't it? Or was it Tasmania Grin?

Anyway, I loved it, a truly absorbing read.

BeckyBendyLegs · 22/08/2010 09:20

And, what is it about this book and singlets? Everyone wears them! I don't even know what one is!

BeckyBendyLegs · 22/08/2010 09:24

Aha!

Shinyshoegirl · 22/08/2010 10:38

I've just read this (twice in a week!). On first reading I found it compelling; the opening was really pacy and energetic and I was incredibly impressed. It's a really interesting picture of Australian society, though whether it qualifies as 'the Great Australian Novel' like the book blurb says is probably more for Australians to judge. It's a fairly depressing outlook, anyway.

LLKH · 07/09/2010 14:24

I enjoyed it on the whole, but the last chapter felt out of place to me. Anyone else think so?

BaggedandTagged · 09/09/2010 12:15

LLKH- yes- the last chapter (Richie) was a little odd. I suppose he had to tie up the loose end of Connie's lie but I think it was all closed down a little too conveniently and quickly.

Overall, I found it quite a compelling read, but I'm not sure it had enough to it to justify inclusion on the Booker list.

In particular, I found it a little wearing that all the characters were so amazingly good looking and virile and all had these hugely sexually charged/ volatile marriages despite all having young children and run of the mill jobs. It somehow didnt ring quite true.

......and Rosie was THE most pathetic woman in modern literature.

Acinonyx · 17/09/2010 14:42

Just finished this and I really enjoyed it. Very edgy and well-observed. There IS a lot of swearing and sex in it. Can anyone tell me - do all Australians really swear this much??? It's truly relentless.

Definitley could slap just about all the characters. I'm afraid I actually know a couple of 'Rosies' irl and they are just as exasperating.

lalalonglegs · 17/09/2010 14:50

Yes, people kept saying to me: "Oh Rosie was just a grotesque" but I know at least one woman like her. I was disappointed it didn't make the Booker shortlist - I thought it would have made a refreshing change from the overly-ponderous stuff that normally gets lauded.

tralaa · 18/09/2010 22:34

I am currently reading it with gritted teeth. I am finding myself not wanting to read it but strangely compelled to, because i want to know what happens to all these vile people.

Itsjustafleshwound · 21/09/2010 13:51

I enjoyed the book and thought it was well written with believable characters.

And agree that all deserved a firm slap around the ears. I also had to laugh at how well the author captured a miserable relationship between the wife and the MIL.

The chapter when Hector's dad went to the funeral very poignant..

ArcticRoll · 21/09/2010 13:54

Thought it was quite a gripping read but surprised it was on Booker longlist as hardly great literature.

Maria2007loveshersleep · 25/09/2010 09:24

Am I the only one then who didn't think the book is full of vile people? I actually liked some of them a lot, eg Hector & even Hector's parents. Also, am I the only one (or the second one, after Lalalonglegs, who doesn't mind the swearing & sex at all? I really didn't notice those things, or at least they didn't affect me as negative at all...

cloudydays · 27/09/2010 04:25

I found it hard to put down, yet I can't say I particularly liked it. As others said I thought the structure was great and thought Tsiolkas did a good job creating different voices for the characters and making them memorably distinct from one another. And I did want to know what was going to happen.

I'm not particularly squeamish about bodily functions or prudish about sex but I thought that the "triumphant" farting and constant jerking off seemed forced and distracting; I didn't like it.

Given that the entire work was structured on Gary's action, I agree that there really should have been a chapter from Gary's perspective. Maybe the author would say that excluding Gary's voice serves a purpose of some kind (in that none of the other characters have the benefit of reading Gary's mind as they make their judgments about the slap, so the reader shouldn't have that advantage either?), but it seemed like a cop-out to me.

I thought it was hilariously stupid that, as someone else noted, everyone in it (except maybe Richie and Gary) was supposed to be so gorgeous and talented. The long, exhaustive descriptions of all those perfect bodies seemed more befitting cheap romance novels or adolescent literature.

I've never been to Australia but thought it painted a very unflattering picture. I did like Richie and he's the only character that stayed with me awhile after I put the book down. Not just because his was the voice of the last chapter!