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SPOILER ALERT Hallmarked Man (Cormoran Strike and Robin Ellacott)

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Civilservant · 01/09/2025 13:44

Spoiler thread for posters who have read or listened to The Hallmarked Man by Robert Galbraith (J K Rowling) and would like to discuss it!

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myladyjane · 07/09/2025 13:56

Oh @LentilDoll that would be devastating! I can see it but I hope it’s not if I’m honest as I’d like a bit of happiness (unless there is some miracle baby strike created so she’s got a posthumous reminder). What I don’t want is something like the last maeve Kerrigan book which was ridiculous imo.

I had a lot of views on this one - I found it a bit dark (didn’t like the constant hard drinking alone by Strike) no light, just shade with Robin and strike, the crime seemed secondary in a major way.

I did enjoy it obviously and actually found the end quite satisfying in that robins hit her rock bottom so she needs to build up. Quite a lot of funny one liners from strike ‘try me’ etc. I liked the messed up posho family and obvs Rokeby and Pat.

Lunde · 07/09/2025 14:43

Was it Wardle who made some vague comments about how nasty Murphy had been to his ex wife when he wasn't sober? Wonder if we are going to find out more about that situation in book 9?

Also - can I say how much I enjoyed Robin's meeting with (older, greying, smoking) Matthew at the pub on Christmas Eve. After spending around a decade pushing Robin towards his picket fence/2.4 children fantasy (sensible jobs, 9-5, sell the land rover, buy a house in good area, must be near good schools etc etc) he is not enjoying the reality of it with Sarah. Am I nasty for hoping that a future book has the sub-plot of Sarah hiring the Strike-Ellacott Agency because she thinks Matthew is cheating on her?

Lunde · 07/09/2025 15:19

One issue that I have been thinking about is, that despite the huge differences between Strike and Robin from book 1 – these have narrowed considerably and there seem to be many similarities between Strike’s and Robin’s issues and emotional development. It appeared at first that Robin is the mature, stable character whereas Strike is failing to organise a chaotic life, yet Strike has undergone growth in a way Robin hasn’t – so Robin is back in the same loop with a controlling partner trying to pressure her to sign up for the marriage/house/children in the same way as Matthew (although amusing that now that Matthew has achieved that – he is unhappy).

Their backgrounds mirror each other in that both Strike and Robin suffered traumatic events that shaped their lives for the past 10-15 years. For Robin it was the rape when she was 19 that meant she couldn’t continue her university course and for Strike it was losing his leg in Afghanistan that ended his army career.

The major trauma events impacted on both of their relationships. For both the traumatic events cost them their wider friendship groups leaving them vulnerable to abusive partners. Robin was forced to leave University and the friendships she formed there, and Strike lost his Army mates. Both ended up with their pre uni/army partners and became enmeshed/trauma bonded to the partners that remained with them. Robin felt that she couldn’t leave the controlling Matthew out of loyalty, and narc Charlotte loved the drama of returning to a “war hero” boyfriend as it gave her a lot of attention and instigated this pull/push psychological abuse… so both ended up in toxic/dysfunctional relationships.

There has been a lot written in this thread about Robin’s passivity in relationships. But I think that Strike is also passive for the first 7 books and seemed to drift into relationships as a response to personal issues, especially with Robin. He seemed helpless when ambushed repeatedly by Charlotte. Strike ended up in a series of short term relationships where the parties never communicated with each other (he seemed to see these relationships as more FWB whereas they were thinking marriage). But Strike seemed very passive in these relationships as it seemed that his partners pursued him and he stayed in the relationship until the gf got fed up with him. Robin is repeating the pattern of passive relationships out of loyalty – that she owed/owes Matthew/Murphy a relationship because they stuck with her when she was struggling (does Robin perceive herself as damaged?). She seems to go along passively with the “safe” partner rather than taking a risk with someone she has deeper feelings for (there are a few parallels with Strike’s sister Lucy here – choosing the safe option).

Obviously, Strike has had some major personal growth and breakthroughs in the past 3 books; the big showdown with Charlotte and her horrid husband in TIBH that led to him going NC before her death, being played by Bijou in TRG that caused a re-evaluation, and the thawing of relations with his father in THM. Robin is not there yet and has no insight into why she is allowing herself to be love bombed into a marriage that she is ambivalent about.

There seems to be also a developing theme about their dysfunctional family backgrounds. In the early books it seemed as though Robin came from a stable, loving middle class family whereas Strike had grown up in squats, had no contact with his father or a multitude of half siblings. But there is an underlying theme of both characters re-evaluating their families – not sure if this is going to play out as a major theme but it’s there. Both have mothers that seem manipulative to me. Obviously, Strike’s mother, Leda, was obviously manipulative as she maintained the narrative of Rokeby abandoning her/Strike to live in squalor, yet Leda was an addict who was unable to put her children first, involved them in adult issues, dragged them from squat to squat with abusive boyfriends, yet refused to allow Joan and Ted to give them a stable home. Even Rokeby doesn’t seem to have been the villain that Strike believed him to be. Robin’s mother is much more subtle but also seems manipulative. Obviously, the fallout between Linda and Robin has been building and the family seems dysfunctional – they ignore what goes on and then everyone calls Robin to dump their emotions on her. However, I was stunned in the Hallmarked Man when Linda claims to have disliked Mathew, yet it was her actions that subtly pressured Robin to not call off the wedding in Career of Evil when Robin had broken up with Mathew.

RubieChewsDay · 07/09/2025 17:21

Linda very much wanted Robin to call the wedding off in CoE which is why she gave her the money to use either on a deposit for a new place to live or wedding shoes, unfortunately like her daughter she struggles to be direct.

Buffypaws · 07/09/2025 17:49

LentilDoll · 07/09/2025 09:50

I think they’ll get together in Book 9, but that there will be some huge dramatic conclusion to a case in Book 10, only one of them can survive, and it’s Robin. And while it clearly won’t be a happily-ever-after, I think she takes over the mantle of the agency and Strike’s legacy and goes forward into her future alone.

Anyway, back to THM re-read and trying to untangle who’s who amongst the aristos.

if this happens I’m gonna be almost as angry as that time BRAN got made king of the seven kingdoms

Lunde · 07/09/2025 17:49

RubieChewsDay · 07/09/2025 17:21

Linda very much wanted Robin to call the wedding off in CoE which is why she gave her the money to use either on a deposit for a new place to live or wedding shoes, unfortunately like her daughter she struggles to be direct.

But why mention wedding shoes at all if she wanted the wedding called off? Why not just give her the money as a deposit on a place. It seemed like a subtle push.

miri1985 · 07/09/2025 17:53

Did Robin and Linda have a reconciliation after the fight at Christmas, I don't remember it being mentioned other than Robin thinking she should make up with her and then they went back to having the same phone calls as usual. I listened to the audiobook so couldn't check if I missed a reference to a reconciliation

Buffypaws · 07/09/2025 17:54

I can’t remember this but Robin isn’t going to spend a similar amount on shoes as she would a house deposit surely??

Buffypaws · 07/09/2025 17:55

I don’t recall a reconciliation with Linda either I assume the point is it just never gets mentioned again and they pretend all is ok

miri1985 · 07/09/2025 17:56

Buffypaws · 07/09/2025 17:54

I can’t remember this but Robin isn’t going to spend a similar amount on shoes as she would a house deposit surely??

IIRC its £500 so either wedding shoes or a partial house deposit

Buffypaws · 07/09/2025 17:58

I did like how she was really sarcastic to Matthew and didn’t give a shit about his attempts at chat

BertieBotts · 07/09/2025 18:05

Maybe it was a security deposit to rent a room? She did live in shared houses for a while.

Civilservant · 07/09/2025 18:09

@miri1985 I think there was no Robin/Linda reconciliation but that the row was brushed under the carpet. Believable!

Dark theory @LentilDoll ! Hope you’re wrong. We know JKR is capable of brutal character endings (eg death of Sirius Black).

Can understand Linda’s concern for Robin’s safety, she chose a dangerous job and takes risks doing it, but Linda’s ways of handling her feelings/fears are bad!

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Zimniy · 07/09/2025 18:21

I also have a horrible feeling that the series that Strike will be killed off. I really really hope this feeling is wrong!

outofofficeagain · 07/09/2025 18:35

I have never been on board with the whole JK Rowling cancellation but if she does this ….

RubieChewsDay · 07/09/2025 19:51

Lunde · 07/09/2025 17:49

But why mention wedding shoes at all if she wanted the wedding called off? Why not just give her the money as a deposit on a place. It seemed like a subtle push.

Because as her mother she needs Robin to know that she'll support her either way, she's doing her best to give her the opportunity to get out of there, but it's too risky for her to say just don't marry him. Like when your friend splits up with an arsehole, you call him an arsehole and then they get back together and then you're the bad guy!

Anyway it's clear where Robin gets her inability to say the things she's thinking from. I feel equally disappointed in her father not being able to talk to and support his daughter in a more open way tbh.

RubieChewsDay · 07/09/2025 19:53

Civilservant · 07/09/2025 18:09

@miri1985 I think there was no Robin/Linda reconciliation but that the row was brushed under the carpet. Believable!

Dark theory @LentilDoll ! Hope you’re wrong. We know JKR is capable of brutal character endings (eg death of Sirius Black).

Can understand Linda’s concern for Robin’s safety, she chose a dangerous job and takes risks doing it, but Linda’s ways of handling her feelings/fears are bad!

There was nothing in this book, but I don't think that we've heard the last of that conversation. I hope the next one is more positive/ productive though, and we get a Robin/ Linda version of the moment that we had with Strike & Lucy in TRG.

BellRock1234 · 07/09/2025 20:15

I liked the detective plot of this book (far more than the IBH, for example), but I didn't like the lack of connection between Strike and Robin. Strike was being selfish and manipulative, and Robin was passive and broken. I was also disappointed that there wasn't a happier ending for poor Decima.

I hope book 9 starts immediately after the end of 8, with Pat hurrying out of the office to catch up with Robin and put a word in for Strike.

I really don't think either of them will be killed off in book 10. I'd never even thought of that as a possibility - that would be so harsh after so long! 'm horrified at the very suggestion.

BertieBotts · 07/09/2025 20:38

I REALLY want to know who made the phone call that Strike ignored in the office at the end of the book.

It wasn't a potential client, because it's outside of office hours and they didn't leave a message. It's someone who either knows he will be there, or is hoping that he/Robin will be there, and wants to speak to them directly.

It's probably about 5-10 minutes after Robin leaves, going by the length of his conversation with Pat and then the fact he had some time to sit and brood afterwards. The timing makes me feel like it was someone who knows what just happened on the staircase, so Robin, Pat, or someone Robin immediately phoned and told (Ilsa?) But those people would call his mobile, wouldn't they?

Or is it Murphy calling off the dinner for some reason? Robin isn't answering her phone so he tries the office? Rokeby, who is blocked on Strike's personal phone?

HoneyButterPopcorn · 07/09/2025 21:05

My theory is that in the final book Rokeby will die and leave Strike a pile of money, and he and Robin will sail off into the sunset on a kick ass superyacht…

Cattywillow · 07/09/2025 23:42

Loving all the character analysis here. I gulped down the book like Cormoran the stupid fish and was left flailing helplessly at the end. 😂 I’m now going back and letting Robert Glennister take me through it at a mushy pea pace and I’m finding more sympathy for Robin. I’m remembering that she doesn’t know what is in Strike’s head and she has all these previous women leaving this impression of his cavalier attitude to romance. We know he’s really matured on that front but she doesn’t. I think Robin is still kind of in freeze mode as a result of her trauma. I completely agree she needs that ‘light and space’ on her own, without anyone else in order to figure out what she wants. Because right now she’s overcompensating for her passivity in her personal life by being sometimes reckless in her professional life. It’s dangerous on many levels. I do think Strike is the only man she feels safe with (which is why she’s not passive with him) but she needs to not stumble straight into his arms from what I’m sure will be a disastrous blow up with Ryan. My hope is that she breaks up with Ryan and tells Strike she needs some time. Then we can have some delicious sexual tension while they are being just friends/colleagues while falling even more in love with each other. Then eventually there’ll be a big crisis and they’ll get together properly. I also hope it’s not too close to the end, I think we’ve earned some romance cuteness!!!

SapphireSeptember · 08/09/2025 00:07

RaspberryRipple2 · 06/09/2025 13:06

Just finished and not read the whole thread yet, my main feeling is that this is the Order of the Phoenix of the series (for fans like me who grew up with HP!) - almost painful to read at times but critical for the development of the characters. Ended with neither of them in the right place really. I think she’ll reject the proposal and hopefully take the next book to sort herself out!

Oh, that's my favourite of the HP series! My claim to fame is I read it in 24 hours (with little sleep and hiding it under the desk at school. 😁) Haven't got that far with this yet, but I have a lot more going on.

I thought the first few chapters were rough on our heroes though. Ted dying and Robin's ectopic pregnancy were a bit shocking. 🥺

Woompund · 08/09/2025 08:06

I'm on the last chapter...place marking to come back!!

BertieBotts · 08/09/2025 08:15

On rereading to try and establish a timeline, robin's PTSD symptoms are really jumping out and I'm feeling awful for her. It makes me want to re-read some of the earlier books where she's following similar patterns.

It's so well written, I adore this whole world building. Feels like being back in the HP fandom again ❤️ was anyone else obsessed with all the essays on mugglenet??

CrocsNotDocs · 08/09/2025 08:24

I am confused as to why Branfoot thought the vault body was De Leon. He wanted De Leon killed. Who did he think he paid to kill De Leon and did the hitman just pick a random murder and convince Branfoot that it was De Leon. Or was it only Fyola who thought it was De Leon?

Im sure this is all covered properly but I missed parts of this plot.