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SPOILER ALERT Hallmarked Man (Cormoran Strike and Robin Ellacott)

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Civilservant · 01/09/2025 13:44

Spoiler thread for posters who have read or listened to The Hallmarked Man by Robert Galbraith (J K Rowling) and would like to discuss it!

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FiveBarGate · 15/09/2025 21:50

My prediction for the next book is that Ellen will somehow become relevant. Midge barely features but crops up to tell Robin about her date with Ellen, her exes ex. The name appeared in the Ink Black Heart - it was the password for the game 'IdratherbewithEllen'.

It's unusual for JKR to include such specifics for no reason, especially as it wasn't related to the case and used to throw us off the scent.

Agree we will also meet Switch at some point. Will the final book be investigating Leda's murder?

RaspberryRipple2 · 15/09/2025 22:16

Couple of questions from my second read:

  • Shanker warns them off the case, saying it was a hit by a mason with a lot of money (implying Branfort?) - but it wasn’t him. Did Shanker just have wrong information, or is there a plot within a plot?
  • Griffiths is in the first crate that Todd and Tyler take down to the dungeon, right? Todd then gets him out and he hides behind the cupboards I assume. I don’t get why Tyler and someone else (1 person? More?) then goes back in the night to rob the place - what was the logic for him doing that if he’s essentially a good guy?

im only 200 pages into the re-read, so maybe these points will become more clear!

Uberaddict · 15/09/2025 22:18

RaspberryRipple2 · 15/09/2025 22:16

Couple of questions from my second read:

  • Shanker warns them off the case, saying it was a hit by a mason with a lot of money (implying Branfort?) - but it wasn’t him. Did Shanker just have wrong information, or is there a plot within a plot?
  • Griffiths is in the first crate that Todd and Tyler take down to the dungeon, right? Todd then gets him out and he hides behind the cupboards I assume. I don’t get why Tyler and someone else (1 person? More?) then goes back in the night to rob the place - what was the logic for him doing that if he’s essentially a good guy?

im only 200 pages into the re-read, so maybe these points will become more clear!

I have asked a similar question to you on my second read @RaspberryRipple2
i think the robbery was a misdirection - hence why the silver never leaves but was done, as was the mutilation; to make it look like the masons

Bowednotbroken · 15/09/2025 22:26

Mumsnet gets a mention in the new Mick Herron book took- something about the gossip being just as vicious (if IRC). DH is reading it just now so I can’t check just yet…

Leoparddrawer · 15/09/2025 22:59

I think they will definitely be investigating Leda’s murder in either 9 or 10. Probably 10 as a nice way to tie up the series.

Agree we’ll get a happy ending but we’ll be put through the wringer first.

Strike will reconcile with Rokeby who will give him more information about Leda and make him more convinced it was murder. Then he’ll die and Strike will change his mind about accepting his money. That will give Strike and Robin a nice little cushion to get them through Covid without having to worry about the agency going under. (I’m still thinking this is epilogue territory)

Ricecrispiesatsix · 16/09/2025 07:22

RaspberryRipple2 · 15/09/2025 22:16

Couple of questions from my second read:

  • Shanker warns them off the case, saying it was a hit by a mason with a lot of money (implying Branfort?) - but it wasn’t him. Did Shanker just have wrong information, or is there a plot within a plot?
  • Griffiths is in the first crate that Todd and Tyler take down to the dungeon, right? Todd then gets him out and he hides behind the cupboards I assume. I don’t get why Tyler and someone else (1 person? More?) then goes back in the night to rob the place - what was the logic for him doing that if he’s essentially a good guy?

im only 200 pages into the re-read, so maybe these points will become more clear!

Shanker warns them off the case because one of Branfoot’s hitmen is boasting that he did it so shanker thinks they’ll have Branfoot after them. Craig and Fiona also believe the hitman which is why Fiona tells Strike it’s Danny.

Griff is in the crate but he doesn’t hide behind the cupboard - he sneaks up on Tyler and murders him with blunt trauma to the back of the head. He then dresses in Tyler’s clothes and glasses and a fake beard and wig to leave the shop. Pamela has been texted away (arranged by Todd I think) so it’s only the rubbish cctv he has to fool. Strike notices a slight limp on the cctv which is a clue.

He then returns at night to mutilate the corpse so that Tyler is unidentifiable and hide the silver as further misdirection.

RaspberryRipple2 · 16/09/2025 09:15

Ricecrispiesatsix · 16/09/2025 07:22

Shanker warns them off the case because one of Branfoot’s hitmen is boasting that he did it so shanker thinks they’ll have Branfoot after them. Craig and Fiona also believe the hitman which is why Fiona tells Strike it’s Danny.

Griff is in the crate but he doesn’t hide behind the cupboard - he sneaks up on Tyler and murders him with blunt trauma to the back of the head. He then dresses in Tyler’s clothes and glasses and a fake beard and wig to leave the shop. Pamela has been texted away (arranged by Todd I think) so it’s only the rubbish cctv he has to fool. Strike notices a slight limp on the cctv which is a clue.

He then returns at night to mutilate the corpse so that Tyler is unidentifiable and hide the silver as further misdirection.

Ooh thanks just read the cctv bit and didn’t think this fitted with the timeline but it would make more sense of the plot - will scan that bit again later.

RubieChewsDay · 16/09/2025 09:20

Leoparddrawer · 15/09/2025 22:59

I think they will definitely be investigating Leda’s murder in either 9 or 10. Probably 10 as a nice way to tie up the series.

Agree we’ll get a happy ending but we’ll be put through the wringer first.

Strike will reconcile with Rokeby who will give him more information about Leda and make him more convinced it was murder. Then he’ll die and Strike will change his mind about accepting his money. That will give Strike and Robin a nice little cushion to get them through Covid without having to worry about the agency going under. (I’m still thinking this is epilogue territory)

Strike is already convinced it was murder, CoE makes it quite clear that Whitaker did it, has already been tried for it and got away with it. His motive was to get his hands on the money she was getting from Rokeby not realising that she didn't have access to it. I honestly don't think there is any more to this part of the story. I'm also not entirely sure I'm interested in there being any more to this plot line other than Switch eventually turning up.

RubieChewsDay · 16/09/2025 09:28

BertieBotts · 15/09/2025 20:33

I got to the end of the podcast, and they reckoned there was an old interview with Jo where she said that the relationship arc with Strike + Robin went through books 7/8/9 - which makes me hopeful that they will have some up and downs through 9 but they will be nicely settled and together by the final book. I do hope so... I would so love to read about them being together and doing normal things.

It's in this interview on the Robert Galbraith website, she says that Strike and Robin's personal relationship has been building towards books 8, 9 & 10

https://robert-galbraith.com/robert-galbraith-discusses-characters-in-the-hallmarked-man/

Robert talking to camera

Robert Galbraith discusses characters in The Hallmarked Man! | Robert Galbraith

From Strike and Robin’s personal and professional relationship development to new faces joining the agency, listen to Robert discuss key characters that we encounter in The Hallmarked Man.

https://robert-galbraith.com/robert-galbraith-discusses-characters-in-the-hallmarked-man/

Civilservant · 16/09/2025 09:41

Finished!

Enjoyed the stairwell scene and Pat overhearing and her response!

Forgave the author for yet more ‘will they won’t they’ because found it all plausible, especially Robin’s response to trauma.

I think the phone call to the office at the end could have been about Rokeby and that he’ll have died.

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PeanutGallerist · 16/09/2025 11:39

Finished last night. Finally.

My first thought was how the hell is she getting away with this? with regard to the BoJo characterisation. I wonder how all the contemporaneous HIGNFY participants will feel about it?

It’s only the second Strike book I’ve read (downloaded the kindle sample then immediately ordered the print version; while waiting for that to arrive I turned to TRG just to pass the time - and then had to finish that first) and although it was deeply immersive I missed the propulsive fascination of TRG.

I must say I’m impressed with the intense and relentless focus on just how shit women’s lives are; the intergenerational trauma we inflict - either through neglect or a desperate need to lock up our daughters in semi-detached security so Nothing Bad Happens; and the unrelenting search for one good man when the clear evidence is that every single one carries the potential to be revealed as the worst ever. It’s a compelling thesis.

But it’s only out of respect for JKR that I didn’t throw the book out of the window at the first introduction of a character using the ‘Lawyer Ilse’ phrasing. It’s pretty unforgivable. (What was the recent outstanding Edinburgh set TV police procedural, for which the original novels were set in Scandinavia - not Annika - forgotten his name? I tried to read the first novel but it began with the hero looking at his reflection in the mirror so I had to shut the whole thing down.)

Oddly enough, right at the start of THM I instinctively felt that Decima and Rupert’s families were way too closely intertwined - the resolution to that was just hovering on the edges of my mind. Although Strike’s suggestion that the child would never need to know struck me as incredibly stupid - given his own recent brush with DNA tests.

I’ve watched all the existing TV adaptations - unsure now whether to start the novels from the beginning, or to race over to the new Slow Horses volume that’s waiting for me.

ThreeWordHarpy · 16/09/2025 13:57

My first thought was how the hell is she getting away with this? with regard to the BoJo characterisation

Yes, I thought that too - little things like dropping quotes in Latin or from the Classics. And the old guy in the club shaking his hand and saying he was needed back. But Branfoot’s rhoticism and his dark hair and lack of mention of holding elected positions of power probably shaded it. I wonder if she took legal advice on just how far she could push it?

I envisage Rokeby as being based on Rod Stewart, but to be honest there’s probably dozens of old rock stars that would fit the bill.

Fasterthan40 · 16/09/2025 14:01

Have read and enjoyed this thread, tho’ not as quickly as I read and enjoyed the book. Did anyone else pick up on the Mucky Ricci mention at Barnaby’s? I wonder if they will introduce element of peril in book 9 as Robin was found by one of the violent gangster sons in his care home room in Troubled Blood. She had to fake who she was and why she was there but he seemed dangerous and a bit suspicious. Hope not, would quite like her life to go smoothly from now on. Tho’ that’s not very good reading I suppose.

Beowulfa · 16/09/2025 14:56

I liked how even though Strike is a brave, clever, decent man, he can still be stupid. Loved his relentless teenage lad fantasy of I just need to get Robin alone in a posh hotel with a nice view and I can totally get in her knickers! Makes his character more nuanced and believable.

The Rokeby scene was imperious.

outofofficeagain · 16/09/2025 16:59

I can't see how anyone could sue for defamation or whatever.

No physical or verbal resemblance, plenty of politicians appear on panel shows.

"So what makes you think this character is supposed to be you?"

"well it's the constant quoting of Latin to belittle people, the dishevelled appearance, penchant for threatened violence, misogyny and corruption - it's so definitely me"

Harassedevictee · 16/09/2025 20:06

@RubieChewsDay thank you for the link.

I think other posters are right that book 9 is going to include Robin’s therapist. It’s clear from the interview JKR likes to delve into her characters issues and Robin very clearly has not fully dealt with all that has happened to her.

RaspberryRipple2 · 16/09/2025 21:28

Ricecrispiesatsix · 16/09/2025 07:22

Shanker warns them off the case because one of Branfoot’s hitmen is boasting that he did it so shanker thinks they’ll have Branfoot after them. Craig and Fiona also believe the hitman which is why Fiona tells Strike it’s Danny.

Griff is in the crate but he doesn’t hide behind the cupboard - he sneaks up on Tyler and murders him with blunt trauma to the back of the head. He then dresses in Tyler’s clothes and glasses and a fake beard and wig to leave the shop. Pamela has been texted away (arranged by Todd I think) so it’s only the rubbish cctv he has to fool. Strike notices a slight limp on the cctv which is a clue.

He then returns at night to mutilate the corpse so that Tyler is unidentifiable and hide the silver as further misdirection.

Right had another read of this. Griff was in the first heavy crate and Todd must have got him out and hidden him behind the cupboards because Pamela goes down again after that and realises the centrepiece is missing. Then Wright and Todd bring down the second heavy crate with the centrepiece, Pamela then leaves, Todd comes back up and is coughing and ‘having a heart attack’ on camera but Wright doesn’t come back up for nearly 50 minutes - so that must be when Griff kills him. He comes back up with a bag but I can’t recall what must have been in it…

that does make a bit more sense to me now

RaspberryRipple2 · 16/09/2025 21:29

No idea why I’ve changed Griffiths to Griff 😂 must be thinking of Game of Thrones!

outofofficeagain · 16/09/2025 21:40

Can I ask about the DNA test … why didn’t Humbold just demand a dna test to prove he was or wasn’t the father.

why did Strike need to do one unless Bijou was planning to swap the test results?

EsmeWeatherwaxHatpin · 17/09/2025 06:29

I’m just reading the thread. I’m about halfway through. I’m sure I’ll have more to say. But I’m at a bit talking a bit about JKRs repetitiveness in this one and I realised - Robin never did buy a new baby gift for either of the kids did she 🤣

Allswellthatendswelll · 17/09/2025 06:50

EsmeWeatherwaxHatpin · 17/09/2025 06:29

I’m just reading the thread. I’m about halfway through. I’m sure I’ll have more to say. But I’m at a bit talking a bit about JKRs repetitiveness in this one and I realised - Robin never did buy a new baby gift for either of the kids did she 🤣

Haha I know I was like Robin just send a voucher it will take 5 minutes!

Woompund · 17/09/2025 07:01

outofofficeagain · 16/09/2025 21:40

Can I ask about the DNA test … why didn’t Humbold just demand a dna test to prove he was or wasn’t the father.

why did Strike need to do one unless Bijou was planning to swap the test results?

He refused for some reason - I can't remember why

Civilservant · 17/09/2025 07:09

I think Humbold was just an arse to Bijou and refused to take a DNA test.

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Civilservant · 17/09/2025 07:10

On the baby gift guilt, some of Robin’s family seem the types to think and say that money/vouchers are thoughtless!

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PeanutGallerist · 17/09/2025 11:13

‘Dept Q’ is the TV show I was thinking of. Brilliant show - I’m so frustrated that the novels seem lazily written.