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NEW Dickens readalong Dombey and Son - the 2025 Dombeyalong!

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Piggywaspushed · 17/04/2025 07:04

Join me in the next Dickens readalong, Dombeyalongadingdong! This is probably the last big Dickens we haven't done.
The novel was originally published by Dickens in 19 instalments, all exactly 32 pages long (I do find this obsession with 32 pages intriguing- writing to such an exact brief must have involved quite a lot of editing and , as I recall from Nickleby, much padding at times!) and then published in full in 1848. I know nothing of this one really - except the name Paul Dombey sticks in my head. Apparently , this one is more focused on marriage and is read as marking a change in Dickens' presentation of women. Seafaring is involved but this is also his first book about the arrival of railways which Dickens was not altogether sold on. This period was referred to as 'railway mania'. It's really quite hard to conceptualise the rapid progress and change surrounding Dickens.

This one has not been on TV for a long time. Andrew Davies had been working on a version - but it was ditched because it was felt we had had too many 'bonnet dramas'. I swear we have still had many since but rather heavily 'adapted' and maybe Sarah Phelps hasn't read Dombey...

I propose condensing this to an eight month read, using Dickens' shorter sections as a guide . We begin in May, as follows:
May - Chapters 1 - 7
June- Chapters 8-13
July- Chapters 14-22
August - Chapters 23-31
September - Chapters 32-38
October - Chapters 39-45
November - Chapters 46-51
and finishing for Christmas in
December - Chapters 52 - end

Considerably more chapters in this one, so I am guessing some must be quite short.

I'll link Katie's intro in my next post.

Anyone and everyone welcome!

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Piggywaspushed · 22/07/2025 14:26

Of course you may!

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DesdamonasHandkerchief · 22/07/2025 14:59

Thank you Piggy.
I’m taking a two pronged attack - ebook via the library and audible version read beautifully in a gentle Welsh lilt by Owen Teale. I hope to resurface at the end of the month!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 22/07/2025 15:22

Hi Desdamona 👋
I think you will enjoy this Dickens.
It's a good one. I need to still start this month's chapters.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 22/07/2025 19:11

I still need to start...rather.

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2025 13:45

I may have just confused everyone by posting on the DC thread!! Whoops.

I'll be posting on here, the correct thread , on 31 July. I am reeling from shock is my excuse.

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cassandre · 23/07/2025 21:30

Hmm, I suspect you've hit the chapter with the Major Spoiler that the dastardly modern editor revealed to me in his footnote!

Piggywaspushed · 23/07/2025 21:36

Very likely.

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FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 27/07/2025 20:52

I have been busy recently and still haven't started my chapters. Tomorrow for sure!

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 27/07/2025 21:29

I’m up to date Fuzzy, you’re right it’s a good one (So far anyway) I’m amazed it’s not better known than it is.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 27/07/2025 21:45

Oh good going Desdamona! You caught up very quickly. I know! I have been thinking the same.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 29/07/2025 23:14

I have come across cassandre's major spoiler. Gosh. I didn't think that was going to happen! I have another few chapters to go.

Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2025 09:06

SPOILER ALERT
SPOILER ALERT !

I am about to post summary for July's chapters.

If you have not read them yet, especially if you have not even started, DO NOT READ MY NEXT POST!

Unlike pesky editors, I have alerted you.

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Piggywaspushed · 31/07/2025 09:51

OK, that's your warning elapsed.

SPOILERS AHEAD FOR JULY CHAPTERS.

Right, so this was a shocker for us this month. Ummm… Dickens, Old Chap, what’s with the book title?!?? That’s very cheeky!

I know Dickens featured a lot of child death, and that Victorians were surrounded by this. I also noticed all the foreshadowing but I was still shocked and genuinely felt sad. Yes, granted , Paul was a bit drippy but he was so lovely and adored Florence so that I shall forgive the maudlin death passages. There are some really interesting passages on grief and mourning in this section I think. As I said last month, I really don’t dislike Dombey – even though he is so horrifically cold about his daughter to the point he has forgotten she exists. He seems a product of his time and class. His sister, however, dreadful woman, once more going on about lack of ‘effort’. No one seems to admire Flo’s resilience.

To cheer us all up there were some great comedic turns in this section. I am liking the addition of ‘Cleopatra’ and daughter. I genuinely laughed at the mutton dressed as lamb comment of ,'[they] found Mrs Skewton arranged, as Cleopatra, among the cushions of a sofa; very airily dressed; and certainly not resembling Shakespeare’s Cleopatra, whom age could not wither.’
I enjoy the 3rd person Major and his spats with Mrs Skewton. Clearly the beautiful , aloof daughter is pencilled in for Mrs Dombey 2.0. Interesting that Dombey asks if she has a son, and we learn that she did, and he drowned.
The passage about the train and its similarity in velocity to the onslaught of death is a Dickens tour de force – it’s too long to replicate in its entirety in my post really but it’s powerfully rhythmical, auditory and dramatic. It’s like if you wanted to find a typical descriptive Dickens passage, you’d go for this. Here’s a snippet:
‘Through the hollow. On the height, by the orchard, by the park, by the garden, over the canal, across the river, where the sheep are feeding, where the mill is going, where the barge is floating, where the dead are lying, where the factory is smoking, where the stream is running, where the village clusters, where the great cathedral rises, where the bleak moor lies, and the wild breeze smooths or ruffles it at its inconstant will ; away with a shriek , and a roar , and a rattle, and no trace to leave behind but dust and vapour; like as in the track of the remorseless monster, Death!’

Best of all in this section is the extended metaphor of Carker the sinister cat with his teeth- ‘Everybody blessed the gentleman with the beautiful teeth, who wanted to do good’. I am guessing good teeth were enough of a rarity in Victorian times for Carker’s splendid ones to be very unusual and Carker sure deploys his like the Cheshire Cat -but of course smiling has always been sinister (I have been known to refer to people as 'him with the teeth' or 'her with her hair', 'that one with the eyes and the legs') - I love the way Dickens uses the real dog, wonderful, Florence-adoring Diogenes, to go into battle against this metaphorical hellcat. Isn’t Diogenes great? His first introduction is marvellous; ‘ a blundering, ill-favoured clumsy, bullet-headed dog, continually acting on the wrong idea that there was an enemy in the neighbourhood, whom it was meritorious to bark at … certainly not clever, and had hair all over his eyes , and a comic nose, and an inconsistent tail, and a gruff voice.’ We are told ‘he is unlike a lady’s dog as might be’ and is loved by Florence. Awww. Inconsistent tail, is the best description ever! There’s clearly lots of intrigue to come as concerns the Carker family and the mysterious sister. Carker’s skulduggery makes him a fairly typical Dickens schemer, so we’ll see what he gets up to.
Until it was made clear that Toots pined after Florence, I assumed he was an old man, so obviously wasn’t paying attention earlier. I tittered at his attempts at writing an acrostic to Florence which has not got any further than ‘For when I gaze’ .

In amongst all this, Walter had gone off on the aptly named ‘Son and Heir’ and this plot will surely develop.

It’s been another good section and (so far!) , I am keeping on top of (nearly all!) the characters, old, new, and returning.

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cassandre · 31/07/2025 22:34

Great post Piggy (and enjoy your holiday!).

I know I've been banging on for ages about the spoiler in my edition! Even though I knew the death was coming, however, I still found it very moving.

Dickens' short preface to the novel reads:
If any of [my readers] have felt a sorrow in one of the principal incidents on which this fiction turns, I hope it may be a sorrow of that sort which endears the sharers in it, one to another. This is not unselfish in me. I may claim to have felt it, as least as much as anybody else; and I would fain be remembered kindly for my part in the experience.

And the very first page of footnotes in my edition reads: 'a sorrow in one of the principal incidents.' The death of little Paul in chapter 16. !!! So literally just as I was beginning the book I was told that little Paul was going to die. 😡Anyway, I have vented my ire sufficiently and I promise to let it go now! (I'm intoning the Frozen theme song here.)

I agree Piggy that the treatment of grief and mourning is very interesting, with different characters responding differently.

I was very pleased to see Susan Nipper come into her own a few times. She had a few great lines, such as when she's telling Florence that it would be good for her to see more people: I may not wish to live in crowds, Miss Floy, but still I'm not an oyster. 😂And her reaction to being kissed by Toots: Go along with you! or I'll tear your eyes out.

And gosh yes Diogenes is fab. Bless him all the way down to his inconsistent tail! I'm not even a dog person, and I fell in love with Diogenes. What a great name for a dog.

And like you Piggy I very much admired the passage about the train and death. Proper Dickensian prose, that is.

I was surprised to learn that the Carkers have a sister, and that she's a firm ally of Carker the Junior. Dickens really does adore his adoring brother/sister pairs, gosh.

All in all, a very satisfying section.

ChessieFL · 01/08/2025 06:55

When someone is named in the title of a book you don’t expect them to die a quarter of the way through (although of course I can now think of a very famous book, one of my favourites, where the woman named in the title is dead right from the start!)

This was a great section with lots going on - poor little Paul and poor little Florence being left with a father who forgets she exists, the introduction of the Skewtons, and more about Carker.

I noticed that Carker is described as smiling like a shark at least once, and his colleague is called Perch - which suggests that Perch is not likely to come off well in their encounters.

I really liked the railway/death section too. I’m looking forward to whatever comes next.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/08/2025 09:37

This was a very satisfying section and I have not got too much to add to your excellent posts.

The death of Little Paul was unexpected and very moving. It was a very cheeky move on Dickens's part to have thrown the plot up in the air in this way. I have no idea what to expect to happen next. I think Dombey will court Mrs. Granger in the hope of reestablishing a new heir for Dombey and Son. I hadn't thought of the name of the ship 'Son and Heir', by the way. That's very good.

I also loved Diogenes the dog. I hope he appears frequently in upcoming chapters. Mr. Toots and his interaction with Susan Nipper made me smile, also Captain Cuttle interceding on behalf of Walter (Wal"r!) and offering Dombey his sugar tongs and other sundry precious items was very funny. And the insult 'chuckle-headed noodle' that Mrs Pipchin used to describe Toots is one to use often in daily life, I think.

LadybirdDaphne · 01/08/2025 10:18

If anything happens to that dog now that might be it for me and Dickens… Unfortunately Diogenes has made an enemy of Mr Carker now, and I’m worried that wicked-stepmother-in-waiting Mrs Granger won’t think much of him either…

CutFlowers · 01/08/2025 12:01

I also enjoyed these chapters. I was so sad for little Paul and Florence. They made such a devoted pair. And poor Florence is now losing her friend Walter too. I think it is interesting that Walter/Sol and the Captain are a very loving family despite not being directly related where as Dombey's idea of family is much more self-interested. I was pleased to see Polly Toodle again and her family being reintroduced. I did find the Toots/Toodle similarity a bit confusing and may need to reframe one of them in my head. Also liked the scenes where they met Mrs Granger and her mother.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/08/2025 12:06

Yes! Toodle and Toots is very confusing.

He had better not touch a hair on that shaggy head, LadyBirdDaphne!

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 01/08/2025 13:00

Well you can say one thing for the late, great Paul Dombey Jr. he was certainly Old Fashioned.

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 01/08/2025 14:41

I’m very much enjoying this, unknown to me Dickens novel, having romped through the first 22 chapters in a week.

I did wonder if Dickens had done the old baby switcheroo trick on us in the first part with Dombey senior musing:
‘…that a great temptation was being placed in [Polly Toodles] way. Her infant was a boy too. Now, would it be possible for her to change them?
Then on her visit home Dickens points out that Polly ‘changed babies’ with her sister, and when Polly and co. leave ‘an interchange of babies was again effected—for Polly had all this time retained her own child, and Jemima little Paul—and the visitors took leave.’
Or did they I thought Hmm or has there been an unintentional, or even intentional, mix up and the actual son and heir is being brought up as a Toodle. It seems unlikely though as the Toodle’s are all ‘apple cheeked’ sturdy types and Paul junior was wan and fey like his mother.

Loving Captain Cuttle, with his pitiful stash of treasure whipped out to act as collateral at key moments, and his complete lack of guile.
Like piggy I’m also immensely enjoying Miss Tox’s stalker, Mayor Bagstock (AKA Joee B., Joseph, Joe, Joe Bagstock, Joey Bagstock, old J. Bagstock, Josh Bagstock, old Josh Bagstock and so on, seemingly infinitum!) with his complexion of blue Stilton and habit of referring to himself in the third person. What a brilliant comic villain he is, I hope he doesn’t get too vicious in his pursuit of Miss Tox.
We need to leave the real villainy to Carker, the original smiling assassin, great point about him being described as a shark and that not boding well for Perch Chessie.

InTheCludgie · 01/08/2025 17:40

Thanks @Piggywaspushed for posting the July summary. I was like others shocked at Paul's demise, I never saw that coming at all! Do you think maybe the book title is a bit of gallows humour/sarcasm from Dickens eg Dombey wanted a son, son dies but the real star of the show might be Florence, the rejected child? As in, not the 'son' at all?

Also, I can feel myself hating slightly on the Major, he's pretty grating with the third person variations he refers to himself in:
"Joey B"
"Old Joe"
"The Big J.B."
Ok I might have made that last one up. I have a feeling he might start getting a bit nasty about Miss Tox. And will Miss Tox be envious over Mr Dombey's potential new love interest?

Terpsichore · 01/08/2025 18:20

Another great section. I did know about the Big Spoiler because I confess I did start reading it before a few years ago, but never finished. I thought the extended episode of little Paul falling ill and then dying was very touchingly and movingly done (looking at you, Little Nell) and his gradual fading away, because it was done from his point of view, held all the more impact. It just goes to show how variable Dickens could be but in this instance I think he really triumphed and managed not to make it saccharine or pious (and just put in the obligatory name-check for GOD right at the end). Poor Florence.

By the way, there are 2 magazines for every section we’re reading, and an errata slip bunged in rather hastily all skew-whiff at the front of the second one of this part with a good few corrections, which just adds to the feeling that Dickens was racing along to get it written and off to press just in time (presumably someone had to transcribe directly from his handwritten MS? Not sure how much time they even had to make up proofs).

I’m guessing most people are reading copies with illustrations but just in case not, here’s the illustration of Florence with Diogenes in my copy, titled ‘Poor Paul’s Friend’ - the other plate in this edition is of Florence and Susan Nipper going into Sol’s shop with the wooden midshipman outside.

I’m also attaching one of the adverts that appears in every edition of the serial - in fact I’d hazard a guess it was in every part-work published in this era, because they advertised constantly. It’s for Jay’s Mourning Warehouse, which was a huge establishment on the corner of Oxford Circus, offering to supply a dizzying range of mourning outfits of every possible kind. It’s something we don’t even really think about nowadays, but mourning was such a massive industry in the days when death was so common, and so present for everyone. A side-light on a lost world.

NEW Dickens readalong Dombey and Son - the 2025 Dombeyalong!
NEW Dickens readalong Dombey and Son - the 2025 Dombeyalong!
Terpsichore · 01/08/2025 18:21

Images might take a while. Sorry

ETA oops, no, they appeared immediately!

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 01/08/2025 19:14

My copy is a freebie from Kindle with a side order of the audible version so I’d love to see your illustrations Terpsicore. Could you post the Susan Nipper plate as well please?