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Bienvenue à Paris - The Count of Monte Christo, thread 2

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LeylaOfCircassia · 30/03/2025 21:49

Welcome back - we now find ourselves in Paris, where we have discovered:

  • the Count has unlimited resources
  • apparently unlimited patience
  • is being rather harsh on Mercedes
  • has unmasked adultery and a rather tragic act and reunited father, mother and son, but with an incestuous twist, everyone remains in innocent ignorance
  • grandparents have died, there may have been foul play
  • a couple of women don't want to marry a couple of men, who in turn, also don;t want to marry them

If you are new and joining us - God Speed.

Previous thread here

Next week, from 31st
Monday - Lemonade
Tuesday - The Accusation
Wednesday - The Retired Baker’s Room
Thursday - Breaking and Entering
Friday - The Hand of God
Saturday - Beauchamp
Sunday - rest

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LeylaOfCircassia · 22/04/2025 18:02

Tristam Shandy is apparently 735 pages - assume some of that is a decent intro in a Penguin type edition.

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CutFlowers · 22/04/2025 18:08

Les Mis for January sounds good!

I haven't read either Middlemarch or The Moonstone but would like to.

My would like to read list also includes :
The Brothers Karamazov
A Place of Greater Safety
Kristin Lavransdatter trilogy
Villette or The Professor or Shirley

WhichOneIsPosher · 22/04/2025 19:52

I'm up for a Les Mis readalong in the NY. Middlemarch or The Moonstone sounds good for a newer readalong, both are on my TBR

Sadik · 22/04/2025 20:00

I'd love to join a Middlemarch read along - I've failed yet again to get past the first few chapters this spring

AgualusasLover · 22/04/2025 20:34

About to dive into today’s chapter. Lots of good suggestions here.

CornishLizard · 22/04/2025 21:33

Middlemarch is on my list too. As is Don Quixote, and Kristin Lavransdatter and Place of Greater Safety. Tenant of Wildfell Hall is another classic I’d like to read. Have read and thoroughly enjoyed Moonstone - would very happily revisit, though from what I remember it could almost be too compelling for a readalong, we’d all be racing to the finish!

TonTonMacoute · 23/04/2025 11:35

I read Middlemarch ages ago, but would very much be up for a re-read.

I love Les Mis but feel I know the story so well. I only recently listened to a wonderful radio adaptation, but it would be a good one to discuss

A suggestion out of left field is The Leopard bu Giuseppe di Lampedusa. A slim book but full of themes to discuss. Apparently there is a new dramatisation on one of the streaming channels which is very good.

TonTonMacoute · 23/04/2025 11:40

The chapter at the inn was hilarious, some real light relief.

Today’s chapter on the other hand!!! Wow, so tense, Dumas is really pulling out all the stops, playing with our emotions.

JaninaDuszejko · 23/04/2025 14:06

@TonTonMacoute The Leopard is on Netflix. They also have an adaptation of One Hundred Years of Solitude.

LeylaOfCircassia · 23/04/2025 17:08

I have read The Leopard, and agree it is a good read, will take no time at all though.

We could do One Hundred Years of Solitude :-)

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cassandre · 23/04/2025 18:19

I would be up for any of the books suggested so far I think. Some of them I've already read, but as classics they would all merit a reread!

Like others, I'm delighted and surprised by the lesbian storyline. It feels so different to the scenes in the earlier part of the novel where we had the horrible stories of Italian peasant women being raped by brigands. This is certainly a multi-faceted novel.

I was greatly relieved that despite their encounter with Andrea, Eugenie and Louise were not deterred from carrying on with their journey! And we finally see a male character who is NOT willing to choose suicide due to loss of honour. ('Kill myself?' he said, throwing down his knife. 'What is the point of that?') Ha.

It's also interesting that part of Eugenie's character involves her dedication to her art (music). It seems as though women in the novel have two choices: marry, or become a lesbian artist. As though heterosexual women can't choose to pursue art. Hmm.

I missed Gentleman Jack when it came out but I'd like to see it.

Eugenie's crossdressing reminds me of Shakespeare comedy heroines, like Rosalind disguised as a man fleeing with her sister Celia, or Viola. But Rosalind and Viola are both in love with men, so they're not as transgressive of gender norms as Eugenie.

I also love it when Louise calls Eugenie an Amazon. Amazon women (or rather the myth of the Amazonian woman, and how it gets used throughout history) is a big interest of mine. So many fascinating women, historical and fictional, are labelled Amazons.

cassandre · 23/04/2025 18:27

Women writers and educated women are often compared to Amazons in pre-modern European history, for example, since writing and scholarship are seen as a male domain.

MotherOfCatBoy · 23/04/2025 18:57

For those interested in A Place of Greater Safety, there is a Substack readalong with Footnotes & Tangents starting 1st May (he did the W&P one a few years back and Wolf Hall last year). I’m definitely joining that one.

100 Years would be interesting - read it a few years ago and while I got through it, I feel I missed lots along the way, there is so much allegory and allusion.

Though hoping for some Victor Hugo tbh as never read him and it seems a good follow on from Dumas, and I could have a crack at reading it in French. Although it does mean spending more time in the 19thC, if anyone is bored of that!

cassandre · 23/04/2025 22:34

That's interesting, MotherofCatBoy, I didn't know you could do readalongs on substack. I've never used substack; is it user-friendly I wonder?

That said, I should probably resist the temptation, as I usually have two MN readalongs going and I can't keep up with those 😂

AgualusasLover · 23/04/2025 22:37

Haha, @cassandre its so easy to get sucked in.

I am saving the chapters for the weekend as I like a nice Saturday morning in a cafe with the Count.

MotherOfCatBoy · 24/04/2025 08:10

Sounds lovely @AgualusasLover !

@cassandre the Substack readalong started on Instagram but migrated as the leader prefers it. You can find the Footnotes and Tangents one by googling; if you want to join a readalong you sign up with email and then you get a big email with all the info and the reading schedule. It tends to be split into weekly chunks; the leader, Simon Haisell, does a post every week and there is discussion in the comments. They are really interesting posts with lots of history and additional information. I don’t tend to comment though as I don’t have the Substack app, I just read it in a web browser. MN is definitely better for discussion! I would recommend, but it’s a different experience.

JaninaDuszejko · 24/04/2025 08:40

A lot of blogs I used to read moved to Substack and I've stopped reading them because the platform is so counter-intuitive and I don't want my in-box clogged up with yet more emails. I understand while people do it though, it's a good way to get paid for your content without having to have loads of adverts.

FWIW I loved the Footnotes and Tangents WaP readalong on Instagram, I didn't do it (I'd read WaP not long before), I just read his very interesting daily updates.

MotherOfCatBoy · 24/04/2025 09:27

Yes his updates/ commentary make it worth it but Substack is not great for « engagement » (having a good old natter/ laugh about the book)!

TonTonMacoute · 24/04/2025 12:27

LeylaOfCircassia · 23/04/2025 17:08

I have read The Leopard, and agree it is a good read, will take no time at all though.

We could do One Hundred Years of Solitude :-)

Oh you are right, I've got it on my kindle and had assumed it was a long one, but DH has just pointed out that we have a copy - a slim tome indeed!

CornishLizard · 24/04/2025 13:40

Thanks for flagging the APOGS readalong CatBoy.

JaninaDuszejko · 25/04/2025 08:06

The Valentine story has been a slow burner but it's hotting up now. Do we think Villefort suspects his wife yet?

Tarahumara · 25/04/2025 10:10

I don't think he does, because Valentine is carefully guarded during the day but is left alone at night in a room which is accessible to Mme Villefort. But, but, how can he not?!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 25/04/2025 10:31

It's very clear that the Count is taking on the role of father and guardian instead of Villefort. Villefort seems blind with regard to his wife. The only thing he's interested in is his work and bringing common criminals to justice. It's all about his reputation, of course and keeping his good name.

These two chapters 'The Apparition' and 'Locusta' are brilliant. I had to skim read 'Locusta' yesterday. It was too difficult not to read on! Poor Valentine!

I also thought that 'The Law' was excellent. The irony of it all; Villefort and Mme Danglars wondering about the identity of the criminal Benedetto, was too good.

DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 25/04/2025 12:48

Some really great chapters, I agree with all the comments above. The Count seems to have made up for his original indifference about Valentine’s fate now that he knows Morrell cares about her - he’s such a Slytherin 😄

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 25/04/2025 15:55

Yes DuPain! It's quite the turnaround!
Is it fair to say that Villefort is a failure as a parent? He seems to sit there with his head in his hands rather than do anything useful.

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