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Dickensalong 2023- 2024 : Nicholas Nickleby

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Piggywaspushed · 23/09/2023 13:05

Come along and join me in the next Dickens readalong.

We have chosen Nicholas Nickleby which was originally published by Dickens in 19 instalments.

I propose condensing this to a nine month read, using Dickens shorter sections as a guide. We begin in October, as follows:

October - Chapters 1 - 7
November - Chapters 8-14
December - Chapters 15-23
January - Chapters 24-29
February - Chapters 30-36
March - Chapters 37-42
April - Chapters 43-51
May - Chapters 52-58
and finishing in
June 2024 - Chapters 59 - end

Summoning old faithfuls and newcomers, one and all!

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Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 11:35

Hi, I'm back from my overnight stay having rallied but DH is now ill!

I think if NN was adapted for scree now they'd have to be really careful casting Smike so as not to make him sentimentally ridiculous - but I'd also hate it if they went all Peaky Blinders in an adaptation! I look forward to what Katie has to say on Smike. She likes a queer theory and also often talks about representations of disability. There was a bit in this section where Dickens described Gride just like Rumpelstiltskin-which is a seam he mined a lot in TOCS in a none too edifying fashion.

A for the next readalong, Martin Chuzzlewit is the book I own, having bought it last time and then we decided on Nick Nick.

I looked The Moonstone up last time, too, and it's probably too short for a readalong.

I'm not a rereader of books, so would rule out Vanity Fair, Great Expectations and Oliver Twist as I have read them all.

Happy with any Dickens really. I think he works well for readalongs because he wrote in instalments and his books are LONG but open to other Victorian suggestions that are a) long and detailed enough for a readalong and b) I haven't read!
That would include Martin C, Dombey and Son and probably several others!

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Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 11:38

I think I got Squeers and Gride muddled in my last two posts! Easily done. It's Squeers Noggs nobs on the noggin,yes?

Gride is dead as a doornail, to coin a phrase!

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Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 11:42

I bookmarked the bit about hope too as my quote of the month but in my addled state forgot about it. That's a great bit fuzzy and I definitley agree Nicholas doesn't really have a character arc. Very astute.

I guess it's a bit crass that Dickens has cleared Smike away so that Frank can have a clear go at Kate without poor Smike being all devastated. It's partly a plot tidying thing.

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Terpsichore · 01/06/2024 12:05

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 11:38

I think I got Squeers and Gride muddled in my last two posts! Easily done. It's Squeers Noggs nobs on the noggin,yes?

Gride is dead as a doornail, to coin a phrase!

Ah, sorry to hear DH is ill, Piggy 😦
It’s the whingey, whiny Bray who’s dead as a doornail! I don’t think we know what’s happened to Gride - I suspect he’ll reappear for the great reckoning.

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 12:21

Ah, yes! So it was Gride burning things and whacked by Noggs??

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Terpsichore · 01/06/2024 12:28

It was Squeers who tracked down Peg Sliderskew and grabbed/burned the documents - then the marvellous Noggs bopped him on the head with the bellows (to resounding cheers from all readers)

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 12:28

There are a lot of baddies in this book!

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Terpsichore · 01/06/2024 12:29

I’m waiting for Gride to get his comeuppance too!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/06/2024 13:58

We need to take a roll call for the baddies in this book.

Ralph Nickleby, Squeers, Gride, Bray (deceased).

All present and accounted for?! I have a feeling there is someone else lurking in the shadows. The man who pretended to be Smike's father. Snawley. He's Nickleby's henchman. One of them.

It's a record number of baddies!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/06/2024 13:59

I'm sorry your dh is ill, Piggy.
One of my dds has come down with something in the past couple of days.

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 14:01

I wouldn't get too carried away with your sympathies... he's just had egg on toast followed by some ginger nuts...

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Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 14:03

I have a question!

In your heads are you saying Ralph as written , or Rafe? MN always likes to say Ralph is Rafe!

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ChessieFL · 01/06/2024 14:37

I read it as Ralph. But then I am not posh.

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/06/2024 14:54

I read it as Ralph!

Piggywaspushed · 01/06/2024 15:27

OK, good! We are all Ralph -ers!

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LadybirdDaphne · 09/06/2024 05:50

I’m a Ralpher!

Found a copy of Martin C in the ‘take a bagful for $2’ room of the Hospice shop today so would be up for that. As most things in that room are ancient Jilly Cooper/Catherine Cookson/Wilbur Smith/ Rubgy Heroes 1978 etc, this was quite a good find.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 09/06/2024 22:52

If you've room in the room for another - I could really do with a Dickens read this summer.

MC is on my own list of yet unread ones.

Piggywaspushed · 10/06/2024 08:18

Always room at the inn! You are more than welcome.

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LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 14/06/2024 12:40

You left me wondering which inns Dickens and friends might have been found in :)
Have any inviting ones appeared in Nicholas Nickleby?

Piggywaspushed · 14/06/2024 15:25

Oh, not sure! We do have resident experts on this thread who research this stuff for us!

People keep getting duffed up in pubs in NN!

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Terpsichore · 15/06/2024 09:15

The main one in NN is the Saracen’s Head, @LiesDoNotBecomeUs - it was a famous old coaching inn on Snow Hill in the City of London (dating back to the Middle Ages at least - Pepys drank there in the 17thc). It was where stagecoaches departed for various destinations so I guess it made sense for Dickens to have Squeers arriving there from Yorkshire.

It was demolished in the 1860s when they built Holborn Viaduct and this whole very ancient area was massively redeveloped. In the 20thc the site was occupied by a police station on the site (built in 1926) but I think it’s been, or is in the process of being, sold and turned into a Premier Inn (which from the architect’s plans online looks like yet another depressing faceless monolith, squeezed into the very narrow site, although they have to keep the facade and some internal features as it’s listed Grade II).

I’m amazed there don’t seem to be any photographs of it, but this is a drawing of the inn in its sad final days.

Dickensalong 2023- 2024 : Nicholas Nickleby
FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 15/06/2024 09:42

Thank you Terpsichore. That's fascinating.

'The Saracen's Head' is a great name for an Inn. Maybe they could incorporate it into the name for the new premier inn :)

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 15/06/2024 09:46

The perfect place for a virtual book club gathering! We could put ourselves back in its heyday and arrive from all parts of the country in the ghostly coaches. 😁

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 22/06/2024 09:27

I finished it last night. A very satisfactory conclusion.

This was a very enjoyable one.

Piggywaspushed · 30/06/2024 10:38

I have also now finished !

We can discuss later if everyone is ready?

Meantime, I found two Katie videos for those who want to watch. Here is the first one.

Reflections on Nicholas Nickleby | Mega Dickens Readalong

#DickensalongIn which I discuss my thoughts on Nicholas Nickleby . . .Nicholas Nickleby, Charles Dickens: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/325085.Nicholas...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98HC_Q7aJTE

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