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Dickensalong 2023- 2024 : Nicholas Nickleby

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Piggywaspushed · 23/09/2023 13:05

Come along and join me in the next Dickens readalong.

We have chosen Nicholas Nickleby which was originally published by Dickens in 19 instalments.

I propose condensing this to a nine month read, using Dickens shorter sections as a guide. We begin in October, as follows:

October - Chapters 1 - 7
November - Chapters 8-14
December - Chapters 15-23
January - Chapters 24-29
February - Chapters 30-36
March - Chapters 37-42
April - Chapters 43-51
May - Chapters 52-58
and finishing in
June 2024 - Chapters 59 - end

Summoning old faithfuls and newcomers, one and all!

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Terpsichore · 28/02/2024 23:22

I haven’t started it yet but luckily I have quite a long train journey tomorrow….

Piggywaspushed · 01/03/2024 08:24

I really enjoyed this month’s reading. Dickens would probably turn in his grave but I am rather glad Nicholas had dumped the luvvies and returned to London because we get more Kate, more Mrs Nickleby and we have met the endearing Cheerybles. It also feels like the plot , which was stagnating , has moved on.

I am delighted to have Miss La Creevy back. Her threat to stab Ralph is deliciously comic:

‘God forgive me for saying so…’ ‘but I really feel as if I could stick this into him with pleasure’
It was not a very awful weapon that Miss La Creevy held, it being in fact nothing less than a black lead pencil; but discovering her mistake, the little portrait painter exchanged it for a mother of pearl fruit knife, wherewith…she made a lunge as she spoke.

Mr Mantalini continues to divert , his newest term of affection being ‘my essential juice of pineapple’.

Can you not just see and hear these people? Isn’t Dickens just great??
I loved Nicholas’ spirited attack on Sir Mulberry. What a fabulous brother.

I read a thread on Twitter the other day about how euphemistically the British try to eject people from their homes if they have outstayed a welcome. I think Dickens may prove helpful here:

[Ralph] cast a wistful glance at the face of Newman Noggs, which had several times appeared behind a couple of planes of glass in the door; it being a part of Newman’s duty, when unimportant people called, to make various feints of supposing that the bell had rung for him to show them out

And of course the brilliant Mrs Nickleby (about poor benighted Smike) who just ‘turned to her daughter ,and inquired, in an audible whisper, whether the gentleman was going to stop all night’. She’s like one of those really rude deaf grandmas’ (except I bet she’s – what- 45?)

I do think she may be one of Dickens’ greatest comic creations.

Very affecting in this section was Smike’s terrible reaction to the word home : ‘I could not part with you to go to any home on earth… except one, except one. I shall never be an old man ; and if your hand placed me in the grave, and I could think before I died, that you could come and look upon it sometimes with one of your kind smiles… I could go to that home almost without a tear.’
‘In the churchyard, we are all alike, but here there are none like me. I am a poor creature, but I know that’

Nicholas replies ‘ when I speak of home, I speak of the place where … those that I love are gathered together’. Home seems an important theme in this book.

It’s really properly moving how much Smike adores Nicholas and how much Nicholas loves and protects him. Dickens writes so beautifully about friendship and about sibling love (I have said this before) – more than any other writer I can think of.

I was feeling a bit teary and then along came Mrs Nickleby again to mangle Smike’s name, eventually declaring it to be Mr Slammons.

And the story of the bear ? What? Kate’s grandmother’s (apparently irrelevantly handsome) hairdresser had to escape from a bear?? Or possibly , the bear escaped from the hairdresser? Only in Dickens would that level of surreal bonkersness make the edit…

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Terpsichore · 01/03/2024 09:23

Oh, the bear just finished me off 😂

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 01/03/2024 09:36

Hello all!

Yes. This was a very enjoyable installment. On the whole, I'm enjoying NN. We're half way through now so there's still lots to go (yay!).

I think Piggy's excellent resumé included everything that I thought of. I was also glad that Nicholas returned to London. It's much more interesting that he is back in action. I loved the description of the city as he arrived by coach. It's such a vivid portrait and the juxtaposition of wealth and poverty is so well done.

The humour in these chapters was wonderful. I may adopt 'my essential juice of pineapple' in daily parlance. It's too good to leave behind on a page!

That is so true about home being an important theme in the book. Poor Smike. I'm sure he will always have a home with Nicholas. I had a similar conversation with a friend recently about what home meant for her. She's up the walls caring for elderly parents but will keep going for as long as it's feasible.

It sounds like Nicholas did serious harm to Mulberry Hawk. I presume Hawk will be after him! He knows who he is.

The Cheeryble twins are wonderful. It's so nice to see such generous, thoughtful, selfless people in a Dickens book as it's so tough for people battling against adversity in some form or other.

The story about the hairdresser and the bear. There is only one word for it. Bonkers!

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2024 17:59

Bumping in case there is anyone else out there!

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ChessieFL · 02/03/2024 18:14

I am still reading along but I’ve fallen behind this month. Will be back when I’ve caught up!

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2024 18:16

That's fine! - I miss you when you're gone and worry I am just talking to myself! (and fuzzy and Terps!)

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Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2024 18:16

Bet you can't wait for the hairdresser bear pursuit...

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ChessieFL · 02/03/2024 18:17

I am very intrigued by the hairdresser bear story!

cassandre · 02/03/2024 18:25

Thanks, I don't have a lot of ideas about this section, but I'm loving the book, and loving your thoughts, Piggy and Fuzzy. I honestly think this is my favourite Dickens novel (not that I've read all of them though).

Fuzzy, I also noted what a wonderful depiction of London that was in Ch 31.

Thanks Piggy for making me see the poignancy of Nicholas and Smike and the definition of home.

It's a relief that Nicholas has finally met the altruist brothers Cheeryble. He deserves some good karma, especially after his own altruistic adoption of Smike.

I note that Squeers is still on the scene though, which makes me anxious on Smike's behalf. Squeers manages to be comical and terrifying in equal measure. He shows that stupid cruelty can be as frightening as clever cruelty.

It's madly implausible that Nicholas should just happen to find out all the details about his sister on his first night back in London, by dint of strolling into the right hotel, but that's literary devices for you! It certainly makes for a good story.

I agree that Mrs Nickleby is a peerless comic figure. I love the way Nicholas and Kate pretty much just ignore her and carry on with what they're doing 😂

My Penguin edition (ed. Mark Ford) has a footnote on the hairdresser and the bear: the annoying kind of footnote that just refers you to an earlier footnote ('see chapter 6, note 8'). The earlier footnote on Ch 6 reads, 'Gillingwater was a perfumer and hairdresser in Bishopsgate Street who kept bears in the basement of his shop, and often displayed a sign announcing "Another young bear slaughtered today". Bear grease was a fashionable dressing for men's hair.'

So that offers some explanation of the association between bears and hairdressers, but does not lessen the bonkers nature of Mrs Nickleby's anecdote IMO!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 02/03/2024 18:30

Thanks cassandre for sharing the explanation! Mrs Nickleby* *wasn't completely off her rocker then!! There really was a bear, although I'm trying to imagine keeping bears in the basement of a shop and don't want to think about it!

Yes, Squeers is awful and I agree with you that 'stupid cruelty' is frightening, possibly because you can't reason with it.

cassandre · 02/03/2024 18:32

Oh but Fuzzy she IS completely off her rocker 😂

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2024 18:34

Oh no, now I really hope the bear was indeed chasing the hairdresser. And gobbled him all up, handsome or not.

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cassandre · 02/03/2024 18:35

Yeah. Reminds of the tormented bear in Tolstoy's War and Peace. I'm definitely Team Bear.

cassandre · 02/03/2024 18:35

reminds me, oops

cassandre · 02/03/2024 18:37

I'm totally stating the obvious here, but this also reminds me of Shakespeare's most famous stage direction: "Exit, pursued by a bear." From Winter's Tale. I assume it's too much of a leap to think that Dickens is riffing on that!

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2024 18:41

I thought that when I read it.

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cassandre · 02/03/2024 18:42

Hmm, if both of us thought it, then maybe the idea of the nod to Shakespeare isn't implausible!

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2024 18:47

Pretty sure Dickens has form for Shakespearean allusions so I think we'll both assume we are correct.

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cassandre · 02/03/2024 18:55

Piggywaspushed · 02/03/2024 18:47

Pretty sure Dickens has form for Shakespearean allusions so I think we'll both assume we are correct.

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Yay! 😍

Terpsichore · 03/03/2024 12:36

cassandre · 02/03/2024 18:37

I'm totally stating the obvious here, but this also reminds me of Shakespeare's most famous stage direction: "Exit, pursued by a bear." From Winter's Tale. I assume it's too much of a leap to think that Dickens is riffing on that!

Yes, me too! Glad to see we all picked up on that 😂

DuPainDuVinDuFromage · 04/03/2024 09:55

I really liked this section, for all the reasons everyone else has mentioned. And the Cheerybles are lovely, such a great name too! Squeers is clearly back on the scene so that he can cause some more trouble though…

Interesting about the actual link between bears and hairdressers!

Terpsichore · 04/03/2024 10:09

I’m sorry to confirm….

Dickensalong 2023- 2024 : Nicholas Nickleby
FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 04/03/2024 18:24

Oh no @Terpsichore 😅
I can't help thinking there should be an easier (and more ethical) way of having glossy locks!

Piggywaspushed · 04/03/2024 18:26

Oh, horrific! Dickens was obviously enjoying the idea of bear revenge.

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