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I hate it when books do this

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petronella23 · 10/03/2023 23:32

  • start by flinging you into the middle of a conversation or action scene where you don't know who anyone is
  • keep swapping between past and present

What are your pet hates?

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EmpressaurusOfCats · 11/03/2023 08:19

References to messy eating. They make me feel sick, they’re not necessary and unless I’m really, really enjoying a book I’ll normally put it in the charity shop pile at that point.

On the back-cover blurb, questions like ‘Will Jane and John ever overcome the barriers to their love?’ or ‘Will Mary find the key to the mystery?’ where the answer is quite obviously Yes.

It would also be refreshing to come across just one book where the heroine doesn’t ending up falling in love with the man who she initially dislikes on sight.

PuttingDownRoots · 11/03/2023 08:22

Basic research. If your book is set in England, get kids school starting age, shopping opening hours and the motorway network correct. I probably wouldn't notice it so much for a book set in New York for example, but I'd expect it to be right.

Pointless detail. I'm currently reading a book which is describing the scenery on a person's drive to work....

Also... if the characters go out for dinner, sharing a bottle of wine then an aperitif, dont make them drive home!

thimblewomble879 · 11/03/2023 08:28

I hate when she's don't work. I read a book recently where the female leads describes her life, she went to university, trained as a teacher, met her husband at work, they married and had a son, then they split up. All good, except when she is 36, her grown up son moves to London for work! Just made no sense and it would not have changed the story if she had been ten years older

EspeciallyDedicated · 11/03/2023 08:29

I find maps and lists of characters at the start of a book really helpful, I'm always glad to find them.

Agree with lots of the above though, another one for me is adding contemporary real
life references, especially brand names "she checked her Iphone" just say phone. I found The Thursday Murder Club to be an exception to this as it is full of them and I liked that about it, but it was irritating in other ways (too many threads and characters, things not explained)

thimblewomble879 · 11/03/2023 08:29

That should read characters ages!

EmpressaurusOfCats · 11/03/2023 08:30

Basic research. If your book is set in England, get kids school starting age, shopping opening hours and the motorway network correct. I probably wouldn't notice it so much for a book set in New York for example, but I'd expect it to be right.

I read a novel about Elizabeth I’s court where married female characters were including their maiden names as part of their full names, Hilary Rodham Clinton style, and it just looked weird. Also random use of Americanisms - on what planet would a born-and-bred Cumbrian living in London say ‘faucet’ instead of ‘tap’?

junebirthdaygirl · 11/03/2023 08:31

Hate books where too much happens to the characters. Like they have had every possible dramatic event happen in their lives. I lose all sympathy and don't care what happens to them next.
And l loved Sorrow and Bliss.

HaveTheDayOff · 11/03/2023 08:33

Books that the author only wrote in the hope it becomes an ITV drama.

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 11/03/2023 08:40

When each chapter is a different character and there's 5-6 characters reading the marriage act at the moment which is like it and it's put me off reading their other books.

Inthetrunk · 11/03/2023 08:55

junebirthdaygirl · 11/03/2023 08:31

Hate books where too much happens to the characters. Like they have had every possible dramatic event happen in their lives. I lose all sympathy and don't care what happens to them next.
And l loved Sorrow and Bliss.

I nearly bought a book like this the other day, luckily I read the entire description first. I forget exactly what happened but it was basically ‘Jane loses her job, then John leaves her, her mother dies, then she starts being stalked, her child is kidnapped and then she is kidnapped by someone else. Will she escape her kidnapper and her stalker, rescue her child from the other kidnapper, get over her mothers death and johns infidelity and find a new job? Read on to find out’. I felt stressed out just from reading the cover!

Inthetrunk · 11/03/2023 08:58

Chias · 11/03/2023 07:48

When a character has a dark secret in their past that causes them to act strangely towards all the other characters and messes up their relationships etc. Then when the dark secret is revealed it turns out to be completely dull and not embarrassing, and leaves you wondering why they didn’t just mention it in the first place. Anything less than a mad wife in the attic with a penchant for arson, just won’t do.

Also when they keep being begged by their wife/mother/best friend to tell the secret and they just won’t. They keep saying stuff like I wish I could explain but don’t or I want you to understand but they don’t tell them anything to help them understand, just stop mentioning it in every bloody chapter then!

lljkk · 11/03/2023 08:59

keep swapping between past and present

i am not up for it, either.

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 11/03/2023 09:00

The zillionth book that is set around a group of 3 female friends. More likely than not one or all of them Irish.
I swear there must be a creative writing course somewhere that states you have to have 3 people to develop a plot.

Neverknowinglysensible · 11/03/2023 09:01

Constant foreshadowing, the ‘Little did I know this would be my last day of happiness…’ drivel at the end of practically every chapter.
Agree with the lack of research, incredibly rushed endings, huge repetitions of plot lines from previous books in a series etc.

PuppyMonkey · 11/03/2023 09:14

I also hate when authors do this:

”Two people having an important conversation.”
”But the author decides to stop say who is speaking.”
”Carlotta said, Dave said etc.”
”And the conversation goes back and forth.”
”It does?”
”Yes.”
”Are you sure?”
”Yes.”
” And by this stage, you’ve completely lost track of who was saying what.”
”Who was asking the question?”
”And you have to go right back to the beginning of the conversation…”
”… to find out who the very important thing happened to.”

petronella23 · 11/03/2023 09:27

PuppyMonkey · 11/03/2023 09:14

I also hate when authors do this:

”Two people having an important conversation.”
”But the author decides to stop say who is speaking.”
”Carlotta said, Dave said etc.”
”And the conversation goes back and forth.”
”It does?”
”Yes.”
”Are you sure?”
”Yes.”
” And by this stage, you’ve completely lost track of who was saying what.”
”Who was asking the question?”
”And you have to go right back to the beginning of the conversation…”
”… to find out who the very important thing happened to.”

Yes! And you literally have to count down the lines to work out which line should be assigned to who.

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KohlaParasaurus · 11/03/2023 09:35

Series which start off so well that I get attached to the main characters, but then the author just keeps churning out a book a year having lost interest/starts making the characters do annoyingly implausible things and the quality of the writing deteriorates. Mr Rankin, please just kill Rebus off now.

ColdAndGrumpy · 11/03/2023 09:40

When books are set in real places using real place names etc, then they get a small detail wrong.
For instance David Nichols' One Day was set in a place I know very well, one of the characters travelled on a bus along a local street (named) but the bus number was incorrect. It wasn't like they were saying anything bad about the bus or anything libellous. So why not say they're on the number 25 when you know that they are?! Why pretend it's the 178?

Such a little thing but when it's repeated use (the bus journey was a regular occurrence) it just niggles me.

PlateBilledDuckyPerson · 11/03/2023 09:41

WandaWonder · 11/03/2023 02:49

Another is when I am reading a non romance series of books and to start the main character is single for a few books then gets into a relationship with someone it changes the way book is written

Sure in real life I am happy for people to get together but if I reading a court room thriller series for example then the relationship bit is distracting

Or some other major change the writer seems to focus on the 'change' rather than the original point of the series

And similarly, where a romantic plot is introduced into a thriller. Cue pages of tedious stuff about the romance where you desperately hope the bloke might actually turn out to be a serial killer, but no, it's just a romantic plot where a romantic plot has no place to be.

ElegantlyTouched · 11/03/2023 09:44

When inconsequential details are repeated from one book to another, unrelated to the first, novel.

When each book in a series deals with some unfinished business in the protagonist's life. One person cannot have so many issues that there's something relevant to the happenings of every few months of their life.

When the same twist occurs at the end of each novel however much it needs to be shoehorned in, without the backstop to the twist ever being resolved. It was clever in book 1, marginally less so in book 2 but boring and bloody annoying in books 3 and 4!

sashh · 11/03/2023 09:48

Authors who have a character who speaks another language but they have not got the basics of that language.

I read one where a Deaf ASL using American went to Paris and was learning French, which is OK, but ASL is based on French Sign Language so why didn't she seek out any LSF users who she could communicate fluently with?

You get this in TV / films too.

I watched one where the mother of a deaf boy was explaining something about his dad. She signed , "your dad wants to see you" but the sign she used for 'see' is only used in the sense of to look at someone / something, so what she actually signed was, "Your dad wants to look at you" when she meant, "your dad wants to meet you"

Blackcountryexile · 11/03/2023 10:06

Agree with @PuppyMonkey and @petronella23 .
Also mistakes and implausibilities due to lack of research For example buying swimming trunks from a supermarket in Britain in the early 1950s.!
Female protagonists who are obviously the author's ideal woman. Incredibly beautiful and the best at everything they do but not at all realistic.
Overused words. "Spooling" seems to be everywhere in current fiction.

cheapskatemum · 11/03/2023 10:18

MMMarmite · 11/03/2023 00:16

When it flicks between different sub-storylines each chapter, just as you have got into one story you are forced to go back to a different one.

Agree with@bizzywiththefizzy, multiple characters with the same or similar names (one hundred years of solitude...)

No likeable characters. Why would I care to read about the lives of a bunch of people I don't like?

I've just finished Irvine Welsh's The Blade Artist & it ticks all your boxes!

The main character is called: Begbie, Frank, Franco, Francis & Jim! There are 2 other characters with the name Francis/Frances.

GoldenCupidon · 11/03/2023 10:19

@PuppyMonkey re the lines of dialogue I swear I had one recently where even the author had forgotten who was saying what so it ended up with the lines the wrong way round. I counted it about 5 times and couldn’t make it make sense. Sometimes I think these authors have two hand puppets on their desks and just use dictation software to record conversations they make the puppets have.

MMMarmite · 11/03/2023 10:32

Haha I'll avoid that one then!

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